Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

[chelo]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

I want to thank Robert and John for bring their trucks to the Nats. This was my first year attending. All though I have been wanting to go since 02. I finally made time to go since i knew it would probably be the only time that John and Robert would both be there.
Robert has had his truck running for many years and has worked out many gremlins. You ask the guy what he has and he will tell you. I asked him many questions and he answered. :tup:
John on the other hand is running a totally diffrent setup that is not the norm on this board. He is still in the infant stages of tunning. Remember. He is over 6000ft of elevation. I belive more like 8000ft. Once he gets his truck running right. I will certainly be fast. I spoke to John for a few minutes but he did not hesitate to answer a question. I was there when he walked over to Robert and introduced himself. He told Robert how impressed he and his crew was with his(Robert's) truck. :tup:
Watching the videos and looking at the photos is one thing. Seeing them in person is another. I'm telling you. If you were not there you missed out on a good Nat's. Johns truck just launched so hard that it bunny hoped and kept spinning the front wheels looked sick. Not to mention how Robert and his sy just easily launched like an arrow.

Once again thanks to both of these guys for actually bringin their trucks. All i know is that when either of them was going to run. People flocked to see them haul ass.
(I'm too tired to reread this but you get the picture. I just got in today and have a little jet lag.) I will try my best to actually bring a truck that has California plates for the Tenth annual syty meet. I do have one year to get ready for it.

 

[QWERTYphoon]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

I would have to say that there are some people posting in here that were not at NATS, so I would assume that they aren't current with all the facts. There are really only a couple of people that are truely involved in this DRAMA CLUB. I thought we left it at the track? It was my first year and I had the best time ever. I met Robert and John and both trucks are amazing. I think if the Bully crew was more user friendly and not so senstive to the saftey rules, this would not had been a big deal. Calling the track ahead of time, Classless! Alot of us at the track didn't have time to get involved with the DRAMA because we were actually racing. I hope this thread ends soon, before Vinny dies of Herrring poisioning.

 

[NOJIMMY]

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John Frey is indeed a good guy....(and I hope he realizes the importance he makes to this community with regard to trying new things and giving it his all...)

Colorado SyTy`s might seem a bit different (ie Will, Dabney, Brian Hartman,
Jared, Dave Kriepal, myself, and others whom I not actually met since we live and
breath thin air) we are not as wacko as the news would have us to be (can
you say John Hinckley/Jodie Foster/Ronald Regan, or JonBenet Ramsey Cases) :roll:
Once you see our mountains, drink our beer, see a hockey game and get Elways autograph
we`re pretty normal!

So dont quit now John, as the song says, "You`ve only just begun...."
(ouch, a Karen Carpenter reference is all I could come up with )

Larry

 

[Silly]

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I dont think anyone in their right mind would dare touch someones truck their either didnt know or didnt think would get a chuckle out of the practicle joke.

wrong again, I have personally witnessed this being done more than once at syty events and this is not the first time it has been mentioned either.

 

[QWERTYphoon]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

What ever, just stop getting involved, bring your truck to NATS next year, do something good for everybody, then talk!

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

wrong again, I have personally witnessed this being done more than once at syty events and this is not the first time it has been mentioned either.

the only one "wrong" is you. I dont care about other syty events youve been to, maybe thats how shit works by you, but Im talking about Nats.

Perhaps something like that happened 6 years ago when you actually went, but I can say nothing bad has happened at Nats since 2002.

End of story, stop crying already. Anyone who messes with another persons vehicle for malicious reasons is a p*ssy anyway and deserves to get the beatdown that would most likely result.

 

[Silly]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

the only one "wrong" is you. I dont care about other syty events youve been to, maybe thats how shit works by you, but Im talking about Nats.

Perhaps something like that happened 6 years ago when you actually went, but I can say nothing bad has happened at Nats since 2002.

End of story, stop crying already. Anyone who messes with another persons vehicle for malicious reasons is a p*ssy anyway and deserves to get the beatdown that would most likely result.

I think I will stop posting when you start posting something that is true. If you are not informed enough about this then stop as well.

I am talking about people tampering with trucks at a Nat's meet, although it has happened outside of Nat's as well.

Also, I have been to a national event since 2002. You do not know me, don't pretend like you do.

 

[myclone]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

Noobs:

Contrairy to what some say the drama isnt an issue at the nats from what Ive seen and its not a bunch of 12yr olds running around like idiots. Minus parts breakage Ive had a blast when I attended and really didnt meet but one or two ppl I considered less than down right friendly. The cliques arent really cliques from my experience where as it seems to be more of groups of people who are local to each other geographically hanging out since they know those ppl personally to some degree. You have that with any get togeather of ppl from across the nation (or world in this case). Doesnt matter if its car guys or doctors...two or more ppl from the same area will feel more comfortable talking since they are from the same area. Generally speaking ppl dont just pick out someone theyve never met to walk up and strike up a lengthy conversation with...generally speaking. Also keep in mind that there is a LOT of crap to do/see being crammed into three days so you MUST keep in mind that if someone is busy tuning, cleaning, repairing their truck they may be the friendliest person there but dont have the time to stand around and shoot the bull with everyone for hours on end at that particular time. As long as you understand that and dont take offense if someone is under their truck thats up on jack stands in the pits at the track and they dont spend an hour shaking hands and kissing babies you'll enjoy yourself. Come back later when that same person has their truck back on the ground and is standing there drinking a cold one and nine times out of ten theyll talk your ear off about sytys. Youll also get to see innovative ways of modding these trucks (some great some would be considered WTF?), youll get to see ppl make fast passes at the track, screw up on the tree, relentlessly flog their truck to 14s all day, break a few parts, actually make their first pass on a race track, etc. Its FUN to take in all of that on top of the socializing which is the name of the game for going in the first place.

I live in BFE and the closest sytyer is ~3hrs one way so the only way I normally keep in contact with fellow sytyers is via the net. That means I dont really have a geographical "clique" to hang out with so every nats Ive been to I just wandered around, checked out the trucks, talked to ppl that werent obviously busy, shook a bunch of hands, had a BUNCH of laughs, and had a HUGELY enjoyable time.

Dont believe me? Go to a nats yourself and see. Youll see ppl who KNOW each other playing practical jokes on one another, ppl that dont know each other shaking hands and oohing ahhing over each others trucks, ppl that dont know each other sharing a few laughs over a cold one or twelve. Its like an extended version of a family reunion only you dont feel all wierd and icky for checking out some nice looking chic thats there .

Just go see for yourself and if its the only nats you ever attend at the VERY minimum you have some stories to tell your gear head buds or your kids.

 

[cvcsmkr]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

The same people who talk about all the drama as a reason for not going to the nats are many of the same people who come on here starting sh!t.

Marlboro Ty --- Why do you insist on being a part of the same crap you say is the reason for less than 100 trucks at the nats. You want to know why there wasn't 100 trucks at the Nats??????????

Because drama queens like you sit back and type sh!t like this thread instead of getting off your ASS and bringing a truck to the nats.

The only drama is what ppl like you stir up. Maybe you should STFU about the event if you aren't going to bother to attend.
The group of us work our ass off to put this event on...pull our hair out trying to figure out how to make it more fun. People like you trying to make it out to be bad just piss me off.

So please STFU about 1999....last time I checked it was 06 and we had two AWD Sy's that have the potential to lay down 8's all day long. Seeing two trucks run 9's and 10's was great. And they weren't hacked up 2wd trucks.

The Bully crew is more than welcome to come back next year. They didn't understand the real core values of the event.
1 You bring your truck
2 You play nice with others
3 If you lose you do so gracefully and be proud you had the balls and money to build something to compete
4 If you help others the investment will pay out for years to come.
5 The Nats is NOT an episode of "Pinks"

In my opinion there should be no complaints from the bully crowd. Many people attempted to welcome them. I heard a number of people say they would have helped them but didn't because of their attitude at the event not because they called KCIR.
They did call KCIR and stir the pot. I know. I head up track day I sign the f'n contract.
Why?
For Roberts safety? The few things that truck lacked to meet NHRA rules should have had no meaning to the bully crew. The truck was very safe.
So why did they care?
They informed me that they built that truck to NHRA std for the nats. They spent the money on safety that Robert didn't. Since they spent money on safety they didn't have the money to make it as fast as Robert's. I pointed out that they had the parts to make the truck fast. They didn't need money.... they needed some TUNING.
If Robert had added the very few things needed to make it NHRA legal it would not have been any slower.
So why did the BULLY crowd feel the need to point out Roberts chassis?

As far as who won the PRO class it was Robert. The BULLY crew wanted him DQed because of NHRA regs.

BULLY guys let me let you in on a well known secret.
This is a private event.
This is not an NHRA points event.
This is sort of like street racing in a safe location with an ambulance standing by
This is not an NHRA event.

We come to win by laying down numbers... not worrying about others rollcage.

The nats committe determines class rules for performance.
The track determines who and what can run how fast.
AGAIN the track determines who and what can run how fast.

We do look at safety, however you did not get the trophy because you lost the race....plain and simple.

pat is dead right!
everybody needs to read this.
this event is for the trucks, community, & a fun.
The bully's really should have thought before they called the track or whatever.
whatever intentions they did it for, did not come across good to the group.
i just hope this drama does not discourage all of the people involved in planning this event.
i cant even imagine what it takes.
and they are doing it at no PROFIT to themselves.
that is reason enough to set attitudes aside and and have a good time.

as far as the truck count.
not only are these trucks getting older, so are the owners.
i would have loved to come(seeing those 2 trucks in person would have been awesome), but i just couldnt work it out.
if i start planning now maybe i can make it to 07:tup:

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

I think I will stop posting when you start posting something that is true. If you are not informed enough about this then stop as well.

I am talking about people tampering with trucks at a Nat's meet, although it has happened outside of Nat's as well.

Also, I have been to a national event since 2002. You do not know me, don't pretend like you do.

:rotf: right Mike, talk about misinformed. I havent said anything that was false yet, but you believe what you want and me and everyone else will believe the truth.

Name 1 instance of someone tampering with someone elses truck after 2002.

 

[Mad Mike]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

Mike, that is the most IGNORANT thing I think I have ever seen you post.

Robert ran a 9.06 on american soil, which is what, 0.08 slower than what he did overseas AND he forgot to use the bottle, so that was nothing but motor and turbo. Why didnt he get to duplicate his 8 second pass? Perhaps you should read one of these threads because there seemed to be a little bit of difficulty in making that happen. Only having the ability to make 1 run each night kinda limited his ability to get used to the track and/or make any appropriate changes.

Spare me, if Bully won the class, how come they dont have the award..... oh wait it wouldnt matter cause they didnt show up to pick up the 2nd place trophy, most innovative mod or anything else they won either.

All the shit talking and phone calls got them nowhere except set them deeper in their problems and alienate themselves from the group.

There were at least 5 people at Nats outside their group who have motec/oddfire/jiffypop experience but due to the fact that their cold shoulder attitude was pretty evident 5 mins after arriving, it was clear they wouldnt have accepted any help if it had been offered.

It unfortunate that things turned out the way they did, but syty.net didnt run anyone off nor did anyone else that was actually at Nats. They controlled their own fate and if youre too blind to see that, thats your own problem.

IGNORANT. Pretty strong words there old friend. Thanks alot. Who fault is it that Robert could not pass tech, mine? Nope. My fault that Robert "forgot" to use nitrous? Nope. Is 9.06 the same as 8.99? Nope. Do you really think his 9.06 or 9.16 or whatever would have "kicked Ed's ass" in a heads up drag race? Ed is my friend and a member of NASTE. Thanks for showing me what your really about.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

IGNORANT. Pretty strong words there old friend. Thanks alot. Who fault is it that Robert could not pass tech, mine? Nope.

Im sorry, but you werent there, Ed wasnt there, I dont see what he has to do with anything. Your little "congrats Bully for winning Pro Class" is just bullshit and you know it. Youre right, Robert didnt pass tech only because his cage wasnt certified, not because it wasnt safe, and guess what, Bully didnt pass tech either, so they were both in the same boat.

My fault that Robert "forgot" to use nitrous? Nope. Is 9.06 the same as 8.99? Nope. Do you really think his 9.06 or 9.16 or whatever would have "kicked Ed's ass" in a heads up drag race?

:rotf: last time I checked, 9.06 is faster than a 9.13, so yeah. It would have definately been a great race and not an ass kicking, but I never said it would have been. As far as the nitrous goes, he didnt need it anyway.
:dunno: I dont know how Ed got brought into this conversation, I certainly have nothing against Ed.

Ed is my friend and a member of NASTE. Thanks for showing me what your really about.

I dont think Ive shown you anything, stop getting bent at me because you made a stupid comment about something you werent witness to. Last time I checked, Ed was not at Nats. I certainly wish he was, but the last time I talked to him about going to any events he stated that he was just too busy with work unfortunately.

Either way the most important thing is that Robert eliminated all the "myths" about the tracks being different, timing equipment being different, track going down hill and all the other crap that people just couldnt live with as a result of someone from Sweden going faster than everyone else. Now he can at least go run well into the 8's over there and all the flaming can stop.

 

[myclone]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

:rotf: right Mike, talk about misinformed. I havent said anything that was false yet, but you believe what you want and me and everyone else will believe the truth.

Name 1 instance of someone tampering with someone elses truck after 2002.

(myclone walks up next to Cap'n Morgan furiously beating his head against a brick wall....)

myclone: "Hey man...umm...I was in that same place a lil while ago"
Capt'n: "Really...so how'd it turn out for you?
myclone: "Im no expert here but all it did was make my head hurt and it only felt better when I decided to stop"
Capt'n: "Damn...I was hoping Id make a difference"
myclone: "Hey, I thought the same thing but it was a waste of time for me...maybe you'll have better luck"

 

[ghettosled]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

I'd argue your memory is faulty. Back in '99 as in '98 and 2000 there were plenty of cliques. There was the Chitown gang, the Socal gang and the Florida gang. We had peeps from Ohio and other states "clicking." There was much talk on the list about who was faster etc... There was also talk then about what message the behavior was sending..

well there were obviously cliques of people due to the comfortability factor of knowing people already, but any smack talk was all in good fun. I dont think the smack talk about who's marlboro truck was gonna win back in 99, is the same some of the more recent drama. All i can recall back then was hanging out with everyone from canada, florida, chitown and socal not to mention all the other individuals. We had Ron Gregory showing us different head castings, as well as Brian Hartman and few others giving free tech sessions. Trips to Hooters and druken fork throwing and wrestling in the conference rooms back at the hotel. Back then I dont think anyone was alienated (maybe Ivan after he stole Chris P's fiance or girlfriend). lol

I'm sure had i attended this year i would have had a great time like many of you. I checked the boards to get updates whenever possible, and the only impression i got of the entire gathering was a negative one, b/c Bully tipped off track officials thats Robert's truck was not legal.

What Bully has been accused of is obviously not in good fun. However i think many have escalated it to another level by saying he has no idea what he is doing, and he is a moron for not lifting when his truck pops and sputters going down the track. I think it is comendable that he had the balls to stay in it and put out some 10.00 timeslips (which is impressive to say the least) He could have lifted then everyone would have made fun of him b/c his truck ran 13's but instead proved that it does run and it just had some complications they were unable to fix.

Again, I was not there so my viewpoints may be twisted. I just worry that some people will get scared off by all the drama.

 

[Mad Mike]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

Captain Morgan]Im sorry, but you werent there, Ed wasnt there, I dont see what he has to do with anything. Your little "congrats Bully for winning Pro Class" is just bullshit and you know it. Youre right, Robert didnt pass tech only because his cage wasnt certified, not because it wasnt safe, and guess what, Bully didnt pass tech either, so they were both in the same boat.

Yeah, maybe I made the mistake of assuming Bully won the class but the post did say Robert did not pass tech. So who won pro?

I dont know how Ed got brought into this conversation, I certainly have nothing against Ed..

Hmm.... I think Ed was brought up in the original post and I know your history with Ed.

I dont think Ive shown you anything, stop getting bent at me because you made a stupid comment about something you werent witness to. Last time I checked, Ed was not at Nats. I certainly wish he was, but the last time I talked to him about going to any events he stated that he was just too busy with work unfortunately.

I'm bent because of your lack of respect and total disregard for what I thought was a friendship. My post was not about you.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

Yeah, maybe I made the mistake of assuming Bully won the class but the post did say Robert did not pass tech. So who won pro?

Ummm, Robert, he ran a 9.16 in the final race.

Hmm.... I think Ed was brought up in the original post and I know your history with Ed.

I have no history with Ed, I have never had anything against Ed.
Ed had some hatred towards me because one of his duplicate threads got removed 2 years ago. I have been to meets with Ed and have been to his shop multiple times as well and bought/sold/traded parts with him since then. I have nothing by respect for Ed and his accomplishments.

I'm bent because of your lack of respect and total disregard for what I thought was a friendship. My post was not about you.

sorry if you thought i was disrespecting YOU, but I was just commenting about your post, not you as a person.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

(myclone walks up next to Cap'n Morgan furiously beating his head against a brick wall....)

myclone: "Hey man...umm...I was in that same place a lil while ago"
Capt'n: "Really...so how'd it turn out for you?
myclone: "Im no expert here but all it did was make my head hurt and it only felt better when I decided to stop"
Capt'n: "Damn...I was hoping Id make a difference"
myclone: "Hey, I thought the same thing but it was a waste of time for me...maybe you'll have better luck"

:rotf:

 

[Mad Mike]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

I have nothing by respect for Ed and his accomplishments..

Nice to hear. Ed works really hard trying to build one of fastest syclones in the world and frequently doesn't the credit he deserves. And it's right here in NJ.

sorry if you thought i was disrespecting YOU, but I was just commenting about your post, not you as a person.

Apology accepted.

 

[Sy769]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

So who won pro?

Mike
Did you read my post?

If not scroll back up.

 

[THEMADTYPH00N]

Re: Thanks for the support from the Bully crew!

Sure.

I have an ass kicking with Justin lined up
Steak Dinner with Todd
And night at strip bar with Dabney

hmmmm what else do I need?

We shall see......

Screw bringing Robert's truck back here - I'm going to King of Europe to witness the downhill tracks and hot women.

Im down