HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Ive had it with the 700R4.
Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
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Robert Lone
MUTANT
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
That's exactly what David said right before he converted my Sy to a 6spd.ivanko barbell said:
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
You still thinking of going to a manual?
You still thinking of going to a manual?
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
If anyone is interested in one, I'm building a 4L80E for syty app right now and it's not spoken for. Good for 900HP. If your over that, I need to know so I can get different input and main shafts for it. Otherwise 900 is it. You have to use the converters I use with my setups so you can have WOT lockup. I didn't mean to take the thread, just letting you know one is available soon.
If anyone is interested in one, I'm building a 4L80E for syty app right now and it's not spoken for. Good for 900HP. If your over that, I need to know so I can get different input and main shafts for it. Otherwise 900 is it. You have to use the converters I use with my setups so you can have WOT lockup. I didn't mean to take the thread, just letting you know one is available soon.
SeattleSy#1255
Category 5 Conservative
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
6th....holly crap!
4L80e and be done with it.
6th....holly crap!
4L80e and be done with it.
George Blake
DONATING MEMBER
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
If you decide to go with the 400, I can get the plate to adapt it and have 2 shafts in stock. Lots of options.
If you decide to go with the 400, I can get the plate to adapt it and have 2 shafts in stock. Lots of options.
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
It won't be an easy decision. There are a lot of practical reasons not to convert to manual, but there are a few important personal reasons why I may convert to stick.
4l80 /400
Advantages
Strength
Can stick with a nice stump pulling low reving Sy/Ty motor
Preserves Sy/Ty behavior that makes them so deadly from a stop.
Quicker
Less drivetrain shock
Disadvantages
Weight
Reciprocating mass/increased windage
Loss of that nice 1/2 shift (so I've been told)
Still an auto which can be prone to mechanical gremlins
Not the best for throttle response for road racing
It won't be an easy decision. There are a lot of practical reasons not to convert to manual, but there are a few important personal reasons why I may convert to stick.
4l80 /400
Advantages
Strength
Can stick with a nice stump pulling low reving Sy/Ty motor
Preserves Sy/Ty behavior that makes them so deadly from a stop.
Quicker
Less drivetrain shock
Disadvantages
Weight
Reciprocating mass/increased windage
Loss of that nice 1/2 shift (so I've been told)
Still an auto which can be prone to mechanical gremlins
Not the best for throttle response for road racing
Robert Lone
MUTANT
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
You don't know the power of the Dark Side. Join me, and together, we will rule the Universe. :robot:
ivanko barbell said:
You don't know the power of the Dark Side. Join me, and together, we will rule the Universe. :robot:
Captain Morgan
Moderated User
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Im only on my 5th and all this time I was worried about Jimmy catching me :lol:
damnit, you got me beativanko barbell said:
Im only on my 5th and all this time I was worried about Jimmy catching me :lol:
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
700R4's are for suckers like me!
I've decided to install a sequential shift rolex sports car trans. Got it for $100 bucks! Of course I'm converting the Sy to mid engine in the bed for the transaxle setup to work properly.
700R4's are for suckers like me!
I've decided to install a sequential shift rolex sports car trans. Got it for $100 bucks! Of course I'm converting the Sy to mid engine in the bed for the transaxle setup to work properly.
Captain Morgan said:damnit, you got me beat
SyTyJedi
Jedi Council
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Jeremy's truck went .2 faster in the 1/4 after switching to the 80E. I don't think the weight increase is a huge factor. You don't need all the super huge line pressure of the 700R4 to put the power down. The 80E is much smoother with less pressure which I think helps lead to the longer life.
Jeremy's truck went .2 faster in the 1/4 after switching to the 80E. I don't think the weight increase is a huge factor. You don't need all the super huge line pressure of the 700R4 to put the power down. The 80E is much smoother with less pressure which I think helps lead to the longer life.
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Yeah my 700R4 had huge pressure apply too. I actually blew out the stock pump one of my previous failures and I stepped up to a billet pump. If I go with auto, I'll do the 4L80 setup, but I first need to decide first if I'm going lazy shift or not.
Yeah my 700R4 had huge pressure apply too. I actually blew out the stock pump one of my previous failures and I stepped up to a billet pump. If I go with auto, I'll do the 4L80 setup, but I first need to decide first if I'm going lazy shift or not.
SyTyJedi said:
Jimmy
Banned
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Waller had already developed a custom cryo treated piece for this weakness,and put one in mine for basically free. Been daily driving/racing on it for about 8 months now. :tup:
I believe mine is done breaking.The last time mine "broke",the only thing that was wrong with it was a busted small sprag.As soon as I noticed the problem,I pulled the trans and shipped it to SC.Captain Morgan said:damnit, you got me beat
Waller had already developed a custom cryo treated piece for this weakness,and put one in mine for basically free. Been daily driving/racing on it for about 8 months now. :tup:
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Id say do the 4L80Eswap, and preserve everything you have come to know and love about the syclone and then you will finally be rid of the one part of the Syclone everybody hates.
If only GM had done the 80E from the factory, theyed probably still be making these things.
Id say do the 4L80Eswap, and preserve everything you have come to know and love about the syclone and then you will finally be rid of the one part of the Syclone everybody hates.
If only GM had done the 80E from the factory, theyed probably still be making these things.
myclone
Donating Member
Re: Tranny grenaded again (6th rebuild)
Agreed... I got tired of pulling the 700 (I quite counting at 22 times) went with a 80E. Funniest part is that the 700 had ~120 miles on it, all cryo'ed, blah, blah blah and was working perfect but I was so discusted with it by that time Im yanked it back out for the final time to do the 80e swap. There will never be a 700R4 in syclone #614 ever again as long as I own it.
SeattleSy#1255 said:
Agreed... I got tired of pulling the 700 (I quite counting at 22 times) went with a 80E. Funniest part is that the 700 had ~120 miles on it, all cryo'ed, blah, blah blah and was working perfect but I was so discusted with it by that time Im yanked it back out for the final time to do the 80e swap. There will never be a 700R4 in syclone #614 ever again as long as I own it.
