Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650
Supersports10 is right, this is exactly why I try to limit my involvement with the SyTy.net community. It seems there is a large group of people that are here just to fvck around (see the crayon-scribbled dyno picture and all the other bullshit in this thread) and/or decide which type of 18" wheel will look best on their truck. It presents a real conflict to someone like me who is DEAD serious about getting the maximum performance possible from my vehicle using what time, money, and parts I have.
Teardowns? Oh, they had those but it didn't work the way you think. Official Nats 2002 rules stated that if you thought someone was cheating, you had to put up $500 cash and there would be a teardown, and if the person was found to be cheating, they would be DQed. Well as you all know, that didn't happen in my case. Solely because someone made a theory that cylinder heads could be identified by external casting marks, I was subjected to a witch-hunt that lasted years where all sorts of people accused me of dishonorable things. The rest of the world uses casting numbers to identify heads, or (gasp) assumes that if they came assembled on the motor from the factory, they are stock. But for SyTy.net, rumor is enough to convict. I worked hard to get my stock truck running fast, with a Stock Class victory almost a shoe-in (I ran as fast as 13.01 @ 101 on the stock chip), and yet somehow a non-racer - let me repeat that - someone who WASN'T EVEN RACING, protested and got me disqualified from the Stock class and put in the Modified class to race my 13 second truck against NHRA competitor Chuck Blossom. No teardown, no questions. I lose. The protestor had more friends in SyTy land than I did, so evidently that trumps logic and reason.
Of course a few years later, I pulled my own valve covers and found that the heads were absolutely a typical stock casting. Sure, a handful of people apologized and the witch-hunt finally died. But I still get to deal with Ass-Holes like Daron on this thread, from time to time, who can't let go of their old myths in light of new evidence.
Then I moved on to high boost and high octane fuels, and made a goal to set the stock turbo record, which I did, and shortly thereafter stopped posting on SyTy on a regular basis.
Now Rick calls me out to insist that I give up the title of the stock turbo record in light of Jeremy's accomplishments, and in the process of debate I mention his modified wastegate and downpipe system and the significant benefits it provides. I haven't said that he Should or Shouldn't hold the new record, I'm just pointing out the differences in setups at this point. Instead of intelligent debate, the attitude is that this is nothing worth talking about, it's ridiculous to consider that the custom wastegate/downpipe would make the turbo not "stock", and it's a joke that I called it a one-off. :roll: A lot of poo-pooing to my idea that the custom wastegate/downpipe mod is significant.
That's interesting, because last time I checked (last year) I am only aware of two people who had this modification, Jeremy, and Christian Dionne. In this thread
3" Downpipe question, Jeff Scott says "Yes 3" will make a large difference over 2.5". and that you will end up with "a LOT better flow and boost control." "On jeremy's truck we picked up 8mph in the quarter." Christian Dionne says "I picked up 5mph without tuning. Esesentially back to back from stock."
Hmmm. I guess it doesn't seem so insignificant now, does it?
Look, I'm not trying to say my truck deserves to keep the stock turbo record. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I stated earlier, that the answer is for you to judge yourself. But don't try to pass this off like it was nothing, or that it was just the same as what I did, or that my questions aren't worth consideration and I'm just whining.
My advice for anyone looking to do serious competition would be to not waste your time with the SyTy community, because you won't find it. Whoever has the most friends is far more important than anything, and the racing is more of a joke and a drunk fest than a real competition. I noticed that nobody has even posted the rules for this years Nationals yet, I tried to bring it up again but just recieved a bunch of chit-chat added to the thread.
To the person who asked, who has the fastest completely stock turbo truck, my answer is: Nobody cares. Nobody, except the two or three people who tried having the fastest, and obviously each one probably sounds biased towards himself (including me).
PS: To the people with the "dick measuring comments": you probably have never done serious competition in your life. You couldn't understand the years of time and effort I (and others) have put into our truck's combinations, or else you wouldn't make such a clueless, rude statement on this topic.
