Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

[It's just a six]

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Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650



I think that time has been overtaken?
It's time to take that off sorry to say

 

[QUICK STORM]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

you made him take his sig away

edit-its back and you got your wish, now where is yours?

 

[Tooky]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Looking to start something? :roll: I'll bite.

I usually log in once every 6 months, so given the 03/04 times you can tell I don't update my signature often. Just for you I'll remove the word "record" from my signature.

But come to think of it, who holds the record really is in the eye of the beholder, and what they feel is stock. I guess Charles Blossom technically has the fastest "stock turbo" at 11.6x, yet most people don't consider him when you think of "The Fastest Stock Turbo truck".

When I had the stock turbo, I constantly battled with boost control issues and over/underspooling due to the 8cm housing and the stock wastegate. Here's the Datamaster run from the day I broke your old record:

This year, Jeremy (SixIsEnough) went faster than I did, but with a one of a kind modified stock turbo and custom downpipe that allows the exhaust to flow freer, and the boost to be controlled in a far more intelligent manner. (I know because my PTE kit uses the same wastegate design and it works great!). He also had the 4L80 trans which I'm really not worried about. (The groundbreaking of proving the 4L80 strength is more important than debating whether its gear ratios offset its weight etc.).

So who holds the record? Everyone has to come to their own conclusion. I don't care strongly enough to stir up trouble making new threads about the subject anymore, but you called me out here. I know on my truck, my parts were "Everyman's Parts", all stuff available off the shelf, including the off-the-shelf Ultimate chip (Jeremy had custom tuning). I even wrote (several) novels telling you all exactly how I did it, detailing my progress along the way. The point of the "stock turbo competition" in my mind, and the reason it has always been one of the most hotly contested competitions in SyTy, is because it represents a level playing field; every Syclone or Typhoon starts with the same basic components, and the stock turbo competition is a way to see who can "Get the most from what they've got". I did the best I could with the same parts everyone else was using, and 12.26 was good enough for me. :2cents:

PS: Do Jeremy and I both a favor, and just surpass both our times fairly, post the timeslip, and then nobody will have anything to debate.

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

sweeet I love these kinds of threads

 

[JSM]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Looking to start something? :roll: I'll bite.



PS: Do Jeremy and I both a favor, and just surpass both our times fairly, post the timeslip, and then nobody will have anything to debate.

:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

 

[MAITAI1993]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

opcorn: :headbange

 

[92Ty#1524]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

My wife enjoys threads like this. She compares it to men in the locker room sizing up peckers (which I've never personally seen, btw).

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Give Tooky a break, the last couple of years he goes in spurt for a couple days and then doesn't seem to log in for 4-6 months

 

[It's just a six]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Looking to start something? :roll: I'll bite.

I usually log in once every 6 months, so given the 03/04 times you can tell I don't update my signature often. Just for you I'll remove the word "record" from my signature.

But come to think of it, who holds the record really is in the eye of the beholder, and what they feel is stock. I guess Charles Blossom technically has the fastest "stock turbo" at 11.6x, yet most people don't consider him when you think of "The Fastest Stock Turbo truck".

I am not sure if Chucks truck was AWD, he told me he ran old dried out standard radial tires in the front & basically slicks or sticky Hoosiers in the back?
It's been a while since I talked to him.

 

[It's just a six]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

"This year, Jeremy (SixIsEnough) went faster than I did, but with a one of a kind modified stock turbo "
What is this "one of a kind "stock turbo.
All those guys said it was "stock" turbo?
Is there more info that was not made available to the Sy/Ty community?

 

[JSM]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

The turbo itself is not changed. Same wheels, housings, etc. In fact it was replaced about 6 months ago with a NOS one bought from Waller.

The exhaust housing was matched to downpipe. WG was ported for better boost control. Turbo itself is as stock as they get. No secrets. What fun is it to claim a record if you cheated doing it.

We fit the syty nats stock turbo rules period. Truck has been there 2 years, this year be the 3rd. Come show up and lets go down the strip.

 

[It's just a six]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

I would like to go there ,but can't get the time off.
So what is TookyCat talking about the turbo being a one of a kind?
Where did he get that from?

 

[THEMADTYPH00N]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

I would like to go there ,but can't get the time off.
So what is TookyCat talking about the turbo being a one of a kind?
Where did he get that from?

Reading comprehension

The turbo itself is not changed. Same wheels, housings, etc. In fact it was replaced about 6 months ago with a NOS one bought from Waller.

The exhaust housing was matched to downpipe. WG was ported for better boost control. Turbo itself is as stock as they get. No secrets. What fun is it to claim a record if you cheated doing it.

We fit the syty nats stock turbo rules period. Truck has been there 2 years, this year be the 3rd. Come show up and lets go down the strip.

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

So what is TookyCat talking about the turbo being a one of a kind?

His turbo isn't the only one like that. Both opening the wastegate port/porting the wastegate are boost control mods. Dozen people have used an exernal wastegate instead, for better boost control. Dozen's of truck have ported the wastegate. The wastegate accessport removal has probably done by 10-12 people (Just an estimate) This isn't as popular of a mod becuase you need a 3" down pipe with an enlarged opening for a wastegate access port.

 

[It's just a six]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Reading comprehension

Yes, could TookyCat explain what this "one of a kind turbo" is ,since he made that comment.
Maybe he knows something that we all do not know??

 

[JSM]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Sept 8th KC the truck will be there. Anybody can look it over.

 

[Tooky]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

What's confusing? I explained myself thoroughly in my original post. I used the problematic stock wastegate system and stock downpipe; they did not. The "service port wastegate / 3" downpipe combo" represents a significant advantage that 98% of stock turbo trucks do not have, including mine. Maybe only the handful of people who have pushed a stock turbo truck to this level, can appreciate the difference such a design represents. Take a look (again) at the Datamaster boost graph I posted.

By "one of a kind" I meant a "custom one off part", however you want to refer to it.

 

[Daron]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

What's confusing? I explained myself thoroughly in my original post. I used the problematic stock wastegate system and stock downpipe; they did not. The "service port wastegate / 3" downpipe combo" represents a significant advantage that 98% of stock turbo trucks do not have, including mine. Maybe only the handful of people who have pushed a stock turbo truck to this level, can appreciate the difference such a design represents. Take a look (again) at the Datamaster boost graph I posted.

By "one of a kind" I meant a "custom one off part", however you want to refer to it.

Strange... I might refer to your motor as a "custom one off part" if going by your logic. Good thing I dont go by your logic.

 

[Tooky]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Strange... I might refer to your motor as a "custom one off part" if going by your logic. Good thing I dont go by your logic.

Great, I'm looking forward to reading your logical argument.

 

[It's just a six]

Re: Stock Turbo Record 10/15/03: 12.26 @ 108.6 w/1.72 60' Max RPM: 4650

Sept 8th KC the truck will be there. Anybody can look it over.

What happens at the nationals when someone thinks another person/racer is cheating?
Do you have to write a formal request for that person to tear down the part in question?
The person protesting has to pay a fee for a teardown,& if that person is caught cheating the protestor gets his/her money back?
BTW... it's hard to see a turbo's internals when all the cheating stuff to be done is on the inside. Don't take that the wrong way.