shaking symptons
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Beavis
Still plays with trucks
Re: shaking symptoms
Re: shaking symptoms
Umm ya, re-balance the drive shaft or at least get it checked at a drive line shop. It wasn't listed as done, only replaced the u joints. How the hell would you balance anything ON the truck? Of course it would have to be removed to be checked. In pairs? What are you talking about? Explain how this is all self explanatory? ok..... Again, a bad or out of balance rotor that is old and/or has rust in it (inside the vents) can effect the balance, might be minor, but can happen. And wasn't listed. Where you came up with balancing a rotor is beyond me.....you replace them, they are cheap anyways, and again wasn't listed. A bad shock that isn't holding pressure against the ground will vibrate since the tire isn't being pushed firmly against the ground and may not be noticed at low speeds or corners. And again front shocks weren't listed, only the rears were......
When dealing with issues that all the basics have been covered, you need to think about the other little things, might be 2 or more problems adding up to seem like 1 big problem. Think outside of the box....... It obviously isn't going to jump out at you and say "Here I am!!! I'm the cause!"
Re: shaking symptoms
Umm ya, re-balance the drive shaft or at least get it checked at a drive line shop. It wasn't listed as done, only replaced the u joints. How the hell would you balance anything ON the truck? Of course it would have to be removed to be checked. In pairs? What are you talking about? Explain how this is all self explanatory? ok..... Again, a bad or out of balance rotor that is old and/or has rust in it (inside the vents) can effect the balance, might be minor, but can happen. And wasn't listed. Where you came up with balancing a rotor is beyond me.....you replace them, they are cheap anyways, and again wasn't listed. A bad shock that isn't holding pressure against the ground will vibrate since the tire isn't being pushed firmly against the ground and may not be noticed at low speeds or corners. And again front shocks weren't listed, only the rears were......
When dealing with issues that all the basics have been covered, you need to think about the other little things, might be 2 or more problems adding up to seem like 1 big problem. Think outside of the box....... It obviously isn't going to jump out at you and say "Here I am!!! I'm the cause!"
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
Had the rear shaft balanced. It needed it and requires a re-sleeve to fix it correctly. The truck is still shaking though.
Had the rear shaft balanced. It needed it and requires a re-sleeve to fix it correctly. The truck is still shaking though.
0966Sy
Code what?
Re: shaking symptons
Reasons for a rotor to be bad, cracking, warped beyond machine, rotor thickness below spec. Absolutely none that will cause a vibration without applying the brakes.
Next time you stop in to get your brakes serviced, ask them if they could balance your rotors for you.
Thinking out side the box, for sure.
Maybe his tires have some pebble's stuck in between the tread causing a vibration
Reasons for a rotor to be bad, cracking, warped beyond machine, rotor thickness below spec. Absolutely none that will cause a vibration without applying the brakes.
Next time you stop in to get your brakes serviced, ask them if they could balance your rotors for you.
Thinking out side the box, for sure.
Maybe his tires have some pebble's stuck in between the tread causing a vibration
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: shaking symptons
Not necessarily Mike, you actually need to look at it, movement could be upper or lower ball joints as well.
Not necessarily Mike, you actually need to look at it, movement could be upper or lower ball joints as well.
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: shaking symptons
That's true. However, I have replaced so many hubs I can feel the difference between the bj's and the hubs:lol:
That's true. However, I have replaced so many hubs I can feel the difference between the bj's and the hubs:lol:
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: shaking symptons
Yeah I know what you mean once you do something enough it's second nature. I just didn't want him to run out and replace the hubs without having someone really look into it thinking that could be the only thing that could be wrong.
Yeah I know what you mean once you do something enough it's second nature. I just didn't want him to run out and replace the hubs without having someone really look into it thinking that could be the only thing that could be wrong.
Beavis
Still plays with trucks
Re: shaking symptons
OK, you are correct. I am completely wrong. I have no experience at all. I have never had this problem solved or reduced because of bad/old rotors that had rust and interior delamination.
I won't have to do that since I don't let anyone service my vehicles for me, and I know there is no such bullshit as balancing a rotor.....
And as far as pebbles in your tires, should I even say that if the pebbles are stuck just right, and are big and heavy enough that this is possible? No I won't cause you are correct and I know absolutely nothing about anything.
Not sure why you want to contradict what my ideas or suggestions.......Have a nice day. :tup:
OK, you are correct. I am completely wrong. I have no experience at all. I have never had this problem solved or reduced because of bad/old rotors that had rust and interior delamination.
I won't have to do that since I don't let anyone service my vehicles for me, and I know there is no such bullshit as balancing a rotor.....
And as far as pebbles in your tires, should I even say that if the pebbles are stuck just right, and are big and heavy enough that this is possible? No I won't cause you are correct and I know absolutely nothing about anything.
Not sure why you want to contradict what my ideas or suggestions.......Have a nice day. :tup:
midnightbluS10
Banned
Re: shaking symptons
Just drop it already. Both of you are beating a dead horse.
Just drop it already. Both of you are beating a dead horse.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
Turns out my coilovers springs were not adjusted tight enough to add the correct spring pressure. the ride is alot better.
Turns out my coilovers springs were not adjusted tight enough to add the correct spring pressure. the ride is alot better.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
looks like my shaking issue is still here at 70-85 mph.
I thought the issue was resolved with the shock springs not adjusted correctly.
I installed a new AC delco steering stabilizer yesterday and it did not fix the problem.
Im going to check my steering box for excessive play tomorrow.
I think its one of those used zq8 boxes.
looks like my shaking issue is still here at 70-85 mph.
I thought the issue was resolved with the shock springs not adjusted correctly.
I installed a new AC delco steering stabilizer yesterday and it did not fix the problem.
Im going to check my steering box for excessive play tomorrow.
I think its one of those used zq8 boxes.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
To be honest I dont remember if I replaced it with a jeep unit...I guess I could pull the flaming river unit off the sy and install it into the ty for a test ride.
I didnt find any play on the gearbox or arm.
To be honest I dont remember if I replaced it with a jeep unit...I guess I could pull the flaming river unit off the sy and install it into the ty for a test ride.
I didnt find any play on the gearbox or arm.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
I swapped out the tires from the front to the rear today to see if the vibration would move from the steering wheel to the seat and it did not make a difference. So I can rule out bad front tires.
I'm beginning to believe something is up with the front diff.
Im going to pull it off and have it rebuilt and rule it out.
I swapped out the tires from the front to the rear today to see if the vibration would move from the steering wheel to the seat and it did not make a difference. So I can rule out bad front tires.
I'm beginning to believe something is up with the front diff.
Im going to pull it off and have it rebuilt and rule it out.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: shaking symptons
Here is a short video of the ty with the wheels spinning. Its a little hard to tell but you can see the axle bouncing around. I suspect this could be the problem. I went ahead and ordered a master rebuilt kit for the diff. I also noticed the shock springs could use a little more tension. These RPM SOS are junk on this truck. The springs themselves are wearing on the outside shocks and the springs are peeling off the powder coated paint from making contact with the A-arm bolts.
Here is a short video of the ty with the wheels spinning. Its a little hard to tell but you can see the axle bouncing around. I suspect this could be the problem. I went ahead and ordered a master rebuilt kit for the diff. I also noticed the shock springs could use a little more tension. These RPM SOS are junk on this truck. The springs themselves are wearing on the outside shocks and the springs are peeling off the powder coated paint from making contact with the A-arm bolts.
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: shaking symptons
Up until recently I would've never agreed with this as I've literally changed/resurfaced at least 1,000 rotors and have personally never seen one that I would've felt had enough rust build up on it to warrant saying that it would cause a shake, that and the vehicle didn't shake before I started working on it and I've pulled off some pretty horrendous ones.
Then the other day I was helping a friend out with their 1994 Oldsmobile Silhouette (beauty of a vehicle
) they were complaining of a high speed vibration and needed their brakes done. As I have recommended a 100 times before I said I'll change the brakes and then for them to go get the tires balanced. Once I pulled it apart I've never seen a pair of more disfigured rotors (in this way), it was like they were flaking apart worse than a day old croissant you were trying to pick apart. Down inside the veins of the rotor there was rusted layer upon layer of lifted and separated metal to the point where there almost weren't even veins anymore and it was a solid rotor.
How this was able to come to be on a vehicle that's spent at least the last 10 years of it's life, if not all, in CA is beyond me but it was undoubtedly the second worst rotor I've ever seen.
Point of this story is that immediately after they left, they called me and said that the vibration was gone. As hard as that was for me to believe they didn't have any reason to lie nor did they have anyway of knowing that I would have been skeptical of this prior to me taking the vehicle apart. I still haven't ever told them about this and I continue to slyly ask from time to time about the van and if it shakes. :lol:
To this day, no more shakes and the tires were never balanced.
Do I believe that rotors can cause a vibration now, yes.
Do I believe that the rotors could cause a vibration if there wasn't something blatantly obvious wrong with them, no.
Odds of rotors being the cause of your vibration at least 1000:1 :myclone:
Up until recently I would've never agreed with this as I've literally changed/resurfaced at least 1,000 rotors and have personally never seen one that I would've felt had enough rust build up on it to warrant saying that it would cause a shake, that and the vehicle didn't shake before I started working on it and I've pulled off some pretty horrendous ones.
Then the other day I was helping a friend out with their 1994 Oldsmobile Silhouette (beauty of a vehicle
) they were complaining of a high speed vibration and needed their brakes done. As I have recommended a 100 times before I said I'll change the brakes and then for them to go get the tires balanced. Once I pulled it apart I've never seen a pair of more disfigured rotors (in this way), it was like they were flaking apart worse than a day old croissant you were trying to pick apart. Down inside the veins of the rotor there was rusted layer upon layer of lifted and separated metal to the point where there almost weren't even veins anymore and it was a solid rotor. How this was able to come to be on a vehicle that's spent at least the last 10 years of it's life, if not all, in CA is beyond me but it was undoubtedly the second worst rotor I've ever seen.
Point of this story is that immediately after they left, they called me and said that the vibration was gone. As hard as that was for me to believe they didn't have any reason to lie nor did they have anyway of knowing that I would have been skeptical of this prior to me taking the vehicle apart. I still haven't ever told them about this and I continue to slyly ask from time to time about the van and if it shakes. :lol:
To this day, no more shakes and the tires were never balanced.
Do I believe that rotors can cause a vibration now, yes.
Do I believe that the rotors could cause a vibration if there wasn't something blatantly obvious wrong with them, no.
Odds of rotors being the cause of your vibration at least 1000:1 :myclone: