NATS location

NATS location


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MikeRenz

not stock
Re: NATS location

ZMann said:
The past few years we've barely used the Track.... do we even need to rent it? I have no problem with the small fee when we do.
past few years.....


outside the box.


and i know you start out in a smaller box than most....but please step outside of it for a little and join the rest of us. :tup:
 

skwayb

NWSTP
Re: NATS location

THEMADTYPH00N said:
Its just as far for many of the guys from NE and they still make it out. Hell KC is 4 hours closer to Denver than it is to New York. With a lot less city driving I'm sure. I can't help it no one from the west wants to drive.

Man try driving 2000 miles one way. I have been to 3 NATs, 99, 00 and 07 (Flew to it). The other ones I didn't make it to because I either didn't have the time off work or others from WA didn't want to go. Didn't feel like driving by myself.

Where ever it goes I will go. Probably fly in if it is way out East but at least it will be happening :)
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: NATS location

My personal opinion on being in or outside of a box is that the one box we should stay in is it being "US". I dont wnat to share a track with some other clubs or gatherings, that sounds like a cluster !@#$ waiting to happen. If it was going to be like that Ild just assume go down to the local hangout on Saturdays. Ild pay ( provided I was going ) extra to keep it just us.
 

GarnetTy1473

Donating Member
Re: NATS location

MikeRenz said:
again...everyone stop generalizing and saying things like "nats is usually" this or that....there is no such thing as usually. There is only "used to". Stop thinking so far inside the box people :lol:

Ok, Nats used to be week after US Nationals. Anyways. If we were to hold it in Indy. We would still get quite a few runs in if we run between rounds during a bracket race. They do this all the time for different groups. Usually mustang groups. They can even do a separate class just for the SyTy. But they would group everybody together. No stock, stock turbo, modified, etc. classes.

I kinda like the Chicago or Bowling Green ideas. For Chicago, what about Route 66? Probably expensive, but it's a really nice facility.
 

Silly

Banned
Re: NATS location

GarnetTy1473 said:
For Chicago, what about Route 66? Probably expensive, but it's a really nice facility.

I can probably get a quote by the end of the day but I can tell you its going to be stupid expensive. I mean look how much it cost just to go TnT there.

Bowling Green is ok in my book, think I voted for that, chicago and KC.

To the people who talk about the power tour, where it might be a good idea on paper it will only end up being a cluster **** of people i think.
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: NATS location

Just food for thought, from the MHST mailing list, Bandimere in Denver is:

Basically the track rental is $3200 for 40 racers. After that its $85
for each racer. Spectators are free. They rent the track from 10am
to 4pm.

I don't know how that compares to KCIR, but it looks like to make it a deal, we'd need a guaranteed 40 trucks for racing. :dunno:
 

Silly

Banned
Re: NATS location

phoonTy said:
Just food for thought, from the MHST mailing list, Bandimere in Denver is:



I don't know how that compares to KCIR, but it looks like to make it a deal, we'd need a guaranteed 40 trucks for racing. :dunno:

Bit pricey

What comes with that? Is there Tech? What about track prep. People who call the tacks for these quote need to get all this information.

If that is the price with no tech and a full prep then maybe not too bad of a deal.

I think I would go if it was on Colorado although I think the turnout would be much much less as you alienate the east coast people.

But my main concern is the elevation. I for one would not bring my truck to CO as I don't want to spend an entire weekend trying to get the tune right for the mile high air.
 

AUSyTyIN

Unbusted $#it box
Re: NATS location

You only loose about 1/2 of a second up here, so you aren't THAT much slower. Also FYI to rent the AWD dyno facility up here for a day cost $500, including 3 employees. I could call on a hotel, but I think that is jumping the gun a little :tup:

The only reason we know the other two prices (track and dyno) is because I know people who have rented out both, and that is what their cost was. I'm waiting to hear back about what all the track price includes
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: NATS location

Some locals did an event last year. It was Colorado Track Day

From the website for last years event:

Colorado Track Day 2007
6th Annual Colorado Track Day
Date: Friday June 8, 2007
Time: 9am to 4pm
Rainout Date: TBA

All cars and motorcycles are welcome to race!
No more than 100 cars will be allowed to race.
Refunds will be given ONLY if the event is CANCELLED
Rain out Date is TBA
Cars must pass tech! NO refunds for cars that do not pass
No cars faster than 7.50 will be allowed
Gates open at 8AM. No admission AFTER 10AM.
High octane fuel pumps will be in service.
Spectators are free!
You can bring your own food and concessions WILL be open
All normal Test-n-Tune rules will apply

So I'm guessing full crew/track prep, as you have to pass tech. I'll ask Shawn about it and try to get all the details I can. :tup:

Edit: wow, two posts at 9:22. :lol: Austin or I will post up when we figure out what's included in the Bandimere rental. Bandimere is a nice facility... heck, one of the owners owns a SoGT :tup:
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: NATS location

MHST Guy said:
Actually that truck belongs to the track, and has quite a history

Linky

[/hijack]

oops, I never did dig up those pictures, did I? :lol: I'll see if I can find them again... for reals this time.

[/hijack]
 

TYRODD

My ass. Look at it.
Re: NATS location

With as much luck as Ive had since last Nats, its prety safe to say I WONT be driving/bringing my truck again :lol: UNLESS it is held in Denver/Phoenix/Vegas/Farmington. Of course if it was held in Denver, it would be hugely unfair to the east coast guys. I think KC is an excellent location for Nats, and distance wise, I think I am one of the few who can have an opinion on that. Sure its far as HELL for me to drive, especially in a POS :rotf: , but I did it three years in a row...SUCK IT UP!

Yearly regional meets, and having a "National" meet every other (or few) years sounds like a good idea. :2cents:
 

NOJIMMY

New member
Re: NATS location

...dunno if this helps, but "what-if"
-we find and/or rent a facility "like" Great Bend ....(this was a airport, I think, with hangers),
-or find a facility like Bonderaunt (excuse my spelling)....(where they have a drag and autocross track)
-or find a facility like a "speedway" where one could race straight-line or "a nascar like circle"
-or, like the vette or viper club, rent Indy for a couple of laps, and have access to the dragstrip as well.

I dont personally know of any facilities like this, but in Colorado there used to be a track
called Pikes Peak International Raceway (where the Goodguys meet used to be held and
they balanced show activities on the midway, and race activities on the track circling the midway).
Course it doesnt exist now...but you get the idea.

-Larry
 

sy#2921

BAMF
Re: NATS location

I am surprised that Memphis or St. Louis have not been talked about yet. Both to my knowledge have great tracks just not sure about price. Moving from KC over to STL is not all that bad.
 

Loeryder

New member
Re: NATS location

I have priced StL mutiple times for different events.

By the time you pay the track help, ambulance and buy your insurance you are nearing 10k for a private rental. I think the local F Body club did a day rental and it was still more than double what KCIR is.

FWIW, KCIR is $2500 with no ambulance and they haven't raised their price in the last 5 years.
I am all game to have it in St Louis, but it would require sharing hte track or even worse using it publicly like the S-Series Nats did.
and to be honest they didn't do much for racing and it was VERY unorganized.
They basically just made test n tune passes and then turned in their time slips to be eligible for the awards.
Then again they don't race classes, just faster 4 banger, fastest 6 banger, fastest V8.

Besides the roads and traffic in St L SUCK big time as any of the east coasters can tell you from passing through on the way to KC.
We won't even get into crime or carjackings. lol
Lets just say I don't leave my truck unattended ANYWHERE near the city.
 

JSM

Active member
Re: NATS location

Memphis is not a great area as far as theft goes. I know when jeremy goes there to race there are cops all over, and seems he is always mentioning cars coming up missing.
 

sy#2921

BAMF
Re: NATS location

I guess it depends on the area then. I stayed in the northwest corner of memphis one night on a trip back from TX and it was a very nice area and seemed safe, doesn't mean that is the same as where the track is located. As far as STL I have only driven through it on the highway and seen the track never once stopped since I never needed gas in that area.

Chicago, BG or keep it in KC
 

JSM

Active member
Re: NATS location

I like Memphis, probably going down there next weekend for fun.

Just I have heard it isn't so safe.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: NATS location

i voted for va since i could stay at my parents, it is only 10min from richmond 1/4 track and that is a good track "in dewitt"
 
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