Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

warmpancakes

warmpancakes

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Nova67ss said:
Thanks :D
Now we are in the right direktion for this thread, and your info and thoughts are noted..

The tricky part is we WANT to do it 4WD style to get those evo´s and other 4WD/AWD a game worth the name, not just Sy/Ty´s ..

Have more info on Leachs, or is he the Sy with the realy nice tubular work showed erlyer in this forum??

No hard feelings, warmpankaces?
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Thats Joshes truck yep dont know if the chassis is certed, but going below 8.50 its a whole new game basically you build a car/truck from the ground up
 
Syborg Twin Turbo

Syborg Twin Turbo

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

just curious what is the fasted a standard cab s10 has run. I know the extra legnth of a Extended cab allows for better weight transfer since you can move the engine back.

as far as carbon fiber, fiberglass or skinned steel.

Carbon - Pauls Select can do the cladding
Fiberglass - VFN has hood, doors and bed sides and gate
Skinned Steel - buy some china parts and skin the interior panels and you would be amazed how much weight you have.

Cost - Wow it would be brutal

Truck that may do it. Mike Calahans Syclone
 
libertysyclone

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Wow what an arguement.

I think that it is very possible.

The AWD is a hindering factor, BUT you can make them launch "flat" with a four link. its all just basic geometry finding the CG and pointing the bars at it right.(extremely dumb'd down version)
The weight- fiberglass/CF body that take a lot of weight of the truck
The cage helps you if its built right to eliminate chasis twist.

A "stock" frame does kind of suck but I think that the HIGH 7's is do able on it. HOWEVER the NHRA might not think so. correct me if I am wrong but isnt 8.49 & 7.99 the next cut off for cages chasis regulations? But a tube chassis composite body truck is in the sevens is definatly possible.

Easy Street has a STI tube chassis car that is AWD and it ran a 7.91 I believe and its still getting bugs worked out. I would be suprised if that car made over 1400hp.

No one uses AWD because there is no use for it, not many people want to do it because you have a car that doesnt fit into any racing classes. Its like having a ferrari in the middle of the sahara doesnt do anything but look good and knowing that it can go fast.
 
blk00z28

blk00z28

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I remember when the engine pics were first posted of his truck. And I'm still in love with that engine. :drool:

If it were me asking the main question. It would have one major difference in it. It would read SINGLE TURBO AWD V6. :lol:
 
Nova67ss

Nova67ss

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

libertysyclone said:
Wow what an arguement.

I think that it is very possible.

The AWD is a hindering factor, BUT you can make them launch "flat" with a four link. its all just basic geometry finding the CG and pointing the bars at it right.(extremely dumb'd down version)
The weight- fiberglass/CF body that take a lot of weight of the truck
The cage helps you if its built right to eliminate chasis twist.

A "stock" frame does kind of suck but I think that the HIGH 7's is do able on it. HOWEVER the NHRA might not think so. correct me if I am wrong but isnt 8.49 & 7.99 the next cut off for cages chasis regulations? But a tube chassis composite body truck is in the sevens is definatly possible.

Easy Street has a STI tube chassis car that is AWD and it ran a 7.91 I believe and its still getting bugs worked out. I would be suprised if that car made over 1400hp.

No one uses AWD because there is no use for it, not many people want to do it because you have a car that doesnt fit into any racing classes. Its like having a ferrari in the middle of the sahara doesnt do anything but look good and knowing that it can go fast.
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Thanks for your input :D the mentioned car (7,91) could possible be a target :D

U know us crasy Swede´s
we try to do it because its never been done before, not to fit into anny class. We could not live on a racecar overhere, its no money into winning or ehum eligal racing, so we do it "just for the glory" :D

Admit the idea is thrilling? :D and it might atract some sponsors too..
 
libertysyclone

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

IMO it should be a scratch build, I see no reason to strip down an actual Sy when 90% of the parts will be new anyway. All the important ones like cladding can be made anyway. Just my $.02 but a tube chassis AWD monster would be awesome. But dont forget Shep he is doing that in a stock unibody!! and there are some REALLY fast Subarus coming out of Australia.
 
qbnkiller

qbnkiller

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Nova67ss said:
This kind of answer, drop them... if the guy dont want to be seen, dont talk about him.. when his ready to run fast with a timeslip to prove it... then show us..

This kind of talk was much around the bully sy too. and we all know what that was....talk...

He´s up for a best time att 10,100 but no timeslip???? more talk??havent seen the slip for that 10.03 either.. the 10.38 is confirmed. by video.
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You know, I thought as time passed, you'd let it go, but I guess I was wrong.

First, I am made aware that you *think* you knew what the problem was with John's truck at the track, and because of the attitude, you refused to come over. Not to open a closed argument, but I call BS. The *only* person who even offered any kind of support was Dig. Period. I now hear the disrespect being given to John's truck, and it is totally uncalled for. Do you actually believe that the BullySy can't go any faster than 10,3? Do you think it is because his distributor wasn't bolted-down (rumor #1)? Was it a bad plug wire (rumor #2)? Was it the location of the wastegate and intercoolers (rumor #3)? How about the rear suspension (rumor #4)? So, with the truck running as bad as it did at the Nats...popping all the way down the track, running a 10.1, and you still think the truck is a joke? hmmm.... anyways...

warmpancakes is right...I have heard rumors of a wild truck hiding in the background....there are also a few pretty radical builds going on right now that look very promising. Can an AWD truck hit 7's? it's only money man! If your pockets are deep enough, anything's possible. Just remember one thing: there's more than one way to skin a cat!
 
Syborg Twin Turbo

Syborg Twin Turbo

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

I am fairly Certain once John gets his truck back together he is going to be a strong contender for the 8's. I look forward to seeing it run mid 8's which I am certain it can do.


PS - Alex tell him to make me my hood Pins.
 
Syborg Twin Turbo

Syborg Twin Turbo

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

okay i have an idea - lets design a truck as a group as what we think it will take to run in the 7's

Sheet Metal - $
Stock Cab - Floor Removed and channeles ( lower center of gravity )
Windshield - Stock
Dashboard - Tin (Similat to Syborg TT)

Doors - Lightened ( Similar to 9 Sec GT Doors )
Windows - Lexan (all power hardware removed)
Door Release - NHRA Leagal
Door Panels - Smooth ( Similar to Mike Calahans )

Fenders - Skinned ( Similar to Leaches Syclone)
Hood - Carbon Fiber or Glass ( Single Layer - Pin On)
Bed Sides - Skinned ( Similar to Leaches Syclone)

Cladding - Your going to need fiberglass to shave a few Pounds
Front & Rear Supports - Tubular ( Similar to Gerbers Ty II )

Bed Wing - Similar to Leaches or 9 Sec Gt

Chassis - $75,000.00
Tube Chassis - Similar to a Pro Stock - but your going to have to add Front Diff
Harness - 5 Point
Seating - LW really hard tin Seat (Cover it in Cloth like the TTV8 Sy)

Rear Suspension - Not Really sure 4 link or ladder bar
Rear Differential - 9" or 8.8" ( i prefer the 9 )
Rear Drive Shaft - Carbon Fiber (just in case it breaks)

Front Suspension - ( RPM Arms since you can buy them off the shelf )
Front Differential - ?
Front Drive Shaft - Carbon Fiber (just in case it breaks)
Front Half Shats - Carbon Fiber (just in case it breaks)

Engine - $50,000.00
Seems like the Mike's have this covered (Mike B, Mike L, Mike C) - gotta be a Mike thing
Engine Diaper

Transmission - Lenco or a GLide

Trans & Transfercase Shield - Just in case it comes apart
Tranny Blanket / Diaper

Exhaust
Stainless Steel Headers, DP & Exhaust

Intercooler
Air to Water - ( Similar to 9 Sec GT Doors )

Electrical - $3000.00
AAW Universal 14 Wire Harness
Autometer Gauges

okay there ya go that's my recipe for a 7.5 sec truck

not hard to build - just expensive as hell to do it right
 
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MikeRenz

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

Syborg Twin Turbo said:
okay there ya go that's my recipe for a 7.5 sec truck

not hard to build - just expensive as hell to do it right
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so quit yappin about it and start building. I say scrap the current syborg build, and be the first in the 7s!!!!! :rotf:

(don't shoot....i'm kidding)
 
Syborg Twin Turbo

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

MikeRenz said:
so quit yappin about it and start building. I say scrap the current syborg build, and be the first in the 7s!!!!! :rotf:

(don't shoot....i'm kidding)
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When i start building the next truck it won't have a v6 that's for sure.


ps. the gun is loaded
 
Nova67ss

Nova67ss

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

qbnkiller said:
You know, I thought as time passed, you'd let it go, but I guess I was wrong.

First, I am made aware that you *think* you knew what the problem was with John's truck at the track, and because of the attitude, you refused to come over. Not to open a closed argument, but I call BS. The *only* person who even offered any kind of support was Dig. Period. I now hear the disrespect being given to John's truck, and it is totally uncalled for. Do you actually believe that the BullySy can't go any faster than 10,3? Do you think it is because his distributor wasn't bolted-down (rumor #1)? Was it a bad plug wire (rumor #2)? Was it the location of the wastegate and intercoolers (rumor #3)? How about the rear suspension (rumor #4)? So, with the truck running as bad as it did at the Nats...popping all the way down the track, running a 10.1, and you still think the truck is a joke? hmmm.... anyways...

warmpancakes is right...I have heard rumors of a wild truck hiding in the background....there are also a few pretty radical builds going on right now that look very promising. Can an AWD truck hit 7's? it's only money man! If your pockets are deep enough, anything's possible. Just remember one thing: there's more than one way to skin a cat!
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As Time has gone We all dropped the bully case, period..

BUT as an example as mentioned he was the truck that came to the nats,(none of the other fast trucks did..) it was alot of talk on how fast it was, and he did´nt show that.

No Johns Sy did´nt go 10,1 at the nats it was a 10,38 untill othervise is shown (time slip)

and NO I never said that Bully´s Sy was a joke, U just said so..

And We where amongst the first to say "sorry he could´nt do his best at the nats..

as I said in privat PM to .BrownDawg71 We all had loved a side by side race Robert vs John..

so U can rumor on as best U wish but U just SOLD OUT Browndawg71 we have exchanged some PM thats stands for Privat Mail.
this is the end of that.

But as Johns truck jumped around at launch with a engine not delivering all power he didnt reach more than low 10. and if engine would have all its power as been said then the reaction on the chassie would been worse and thats MY opinion and I stand for it..
U need to tune bouth chassie and engine and all other parts to go fast, it will come though.

All your Rumor numbers was MY personal easy guessing on BrownDawg71 question IF I new what was the wrong with bully Sy.He did and told me someting about it... I didn know I guessed..nothing more and U ratted on a friend..

Whell we heard rumors about John and crew would run Robert "down" and serve his head on a plate so to say.. need we speak more about this??

I stil think, if there are faster Sy´s than been showed of these last years Hoover, Hess, Robert, bad new, bully, Why have they not come forward.. ah yea they live on iligal betting and so on...
and the rumor is going like the Yeti and big foot..."everybody" now about them but noone have seen them or even lay down proff off the existence.


And skinn a cat U can only do once whatever metod U use..

This is like ball hit it against something and it bounces right back :D so give me a smasch now hahaha
 
Nova67ss

Nova67ss

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Re: Is a 7.50 Syclone possible??

qbnkiller said:
You know, I thought as time passed, you'd let it go, but I guess I was wrong.
Because of the attitude, you refused to come over. Not to open a closed argument, but I call BS. The *only* person who even offered any kind of support was Dig. Period. I now hear the disrespect being given to John's truck, and it is totally uncalled for.
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If someone does a "not so nice and friendly" gesture towards U, are U the first to stepp forward to that person, saying alls forgoten??

Yes we where waiting to see how John and crew would behave (maybee even make an excuse for the issue) but team Bully even "Iced out" your fellow american guys.. thats attitude.

At the track it was wery easy for a team member to Bully dropping his color and walk over to Robert askin alot of Q abouttroubleshouting.. and got nice answers and a discution around engines and tuning, then return to team B and put on the colors and turn the back at us..This is NO RUMOR..

End of this.
 
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