Hu Ryde

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

FYI Jimmy's poll had nothing to do with his banning, though it did raise some points that people are sick of his crap or they sick of the HS type of drama created.

IMO It takes a lot to be banned.

So what does it take to be banned? Was their foul language? Attempted illegal actions? Threats of violence? I did not see them but if there was please forward a copy of them to me. If not, then Morgan banned him to save us of from the drama? Sorry I don't need to be saved from anyone or anything and If I did I can do it my self, not at the expense of someone else being excluded. If I want to read it I will, if not I won't, just like Penthouse or Playboy.

Thanks,
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James R. Thomas
Windsock Inc.
J&J Auto & Industrial
Island Cycle & Performance
Marianas Motor Sports

 

[MRKING]

Re: Hu Ryde

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

Well dang....now we've gone and pissed off daddy war bucks here and he's gonna buy the site and run it like he wants it ran whether we like it or not.

I hate being poor :roll: .

Pleas note where it says NON-PROFIT and I wish I was daddy warbucks. Even if I was I would not run it my way. And yes I would buy it for non-profit operation and make it completly member accountable. There are several other sites that I have been involved with that are doing just fine.

I am serious, didn't those comments bother you? I would like to know what others think, yea I am upset at what was said and how it was said but how many others are not posting due to the "fear factor"? If all is well and there are no problems then why the comments? Let me know
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[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

you guys think that you just got rid of a trouble maker, but what actually happened is we, as a group, just lost a valuable asset to the syty community.

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Well I see that at least one of the vendors doesn't have a problem with Hu Ryde or the situation that was so dramatized and or out of hand.
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James R. Thomas

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

Exactly, what you guys don't realize, is that some stuff goes on behind the scenes, to keep this board clean and running properly.



Very well put. Everyone can play tough guy on the internet, but when it comes to having a discussion face to face things change. Many people use SyTy.net to vent on issues with vendors, members, ect....simply because it is easier to type than to look someone in the eye and tell them your beef, and things can get misinterpreted VERY easily.

James, no offense, but you are fairly new to the community...and a lot has happened throughout the history of this board (banning, vendor affairs, bashing ect). We try our best to keep the peace, and keep the information flowing without a bunch of BS floating around all the time. After all this is about the trucks. :tup:

No offense taken, nice point. This reply will cover several comments made by others in an effort to save space.First off please read my original post where I acknowledged that I am new, but that has nothing to do with the blatent fact that more than several of the members have problems and or issues with some Admins and "Keepers of the Gate" here. Look at the posts, none of them are personal or "I don't like you cause your truck is better than mine" stuff. The comments are about "breaking the ruIes", "banning", "locking", "don't piss of the Admins and they will be nice to you", "some of them break their own rules but just let it die" etc.

I am not a young kid here, same as Hesse and some of the others so this is not a na nany bohoo I don't like you gripe.This is Capt. Morgan's blatent comments about "This forum is NOT a democracy." and "we're on the internet, the same rules don't apply here. I don't have a "personal problem" with Morgan, I don't know him but I do know that these type of comments are wrong!!!!!! In fact, those comments are down right oppressive and in other countries that is called a dictatorship. Notice the comments above - "don't piss of the Admins and they will be nice to you", "some of them break their own rules but just let it die" etc. Sounds like this has been a problem for a while and I bet truth be know, many are not posting due to that, dare I say "fear" of wrath.

As to motives and behind the scenes I won't go into my background history but lets just say as retired military and now having several of my own small Corp's, I am very well aware of "behind the scenes" but right is right and wrong is still wrong and due to age and experience I feel pretty qualified saying that. So somebody left then came back........ for what ever reason, they did or didn't contribute..... that's not the point at all and seems to have been written in as important. Even one of the posts defending Morgan also says that there are problems! Go figure with comments like the ones that he is... as he says "spewing". I think some of you are missing the point and that is that things are not as they should be.

And that without good solid legal / language reason a member was silenced because he commented on something that was less than agreeable or verifiable. Well I can verify that Morgan did and is the one who brought up the " "This forum is NOT a democracy." and "we're on the internet, the same rules don't apply here. and I am sorry but I have to call that as I see it in plain black and white...... Oppressive, suppressive and third world dictator'ish. It's my call and my call alone and if you don't like it then you will be silenced / delt with.

If you can truly, correctly and rationaly explain it in any other way then I am all ears? He is the one that said it and that is why I can not entertain him, his comments or authority after this. For God sake, a comment by me as to the bann thing that could have been replied to with a simple "Comment noted and taken under advise" would have been fine but he had to be confrontational and unass himself by making the democracy comment and then really attempting to defend it in a follow up reply?

Sorry, wrong guy from the wrong country for that to flush. Now I am pissed and not just a little bit either! Lock this thead, bann me or do what ever Morgan thinks needs to be done to protect the fourm but have smiled ear to ear in the past "dealing with" this type of dictator outlook crap in other third world countries. And please remind Morgan that all the countries he listed as being members "Canada, Brazil, Japan, Germany, Sweden" ARE ONES THAT HAVE SOME TYPE OF DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT AT SOME LEVEL. Too bad we can't hear from the third world countries but they have little or limited access to the outside world and even if they did, the majority have no income to support a car hobby little less anything else like food and housing! Have you ever been to a REAL Communist or related third world hell hole. I have.

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James R.Thomas
Windsock Inc.
J&J Auto & Industrial
Island Cycle & Performance
Marianas Motor Sports

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

That good! I Like it!
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James Thomas

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Hu Ryde

and I am sorry but I have to call that as I see it in plain black and white...... Oppressive, suppressive and third world dictator'ish. It's my call and my call alone and if you don't like it then you will be silenced / delt with.

EXACTLY! Now youre finally starting to understand how internet forums work. Thank you.

And please remind Morgan that all the countries he listed as being members "Canada, Brazil, Japan, Germany, Sweden" ARE ONES THAT HAVE SOME TYPE OF DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT AT SOME LEVEL.

Thank you again, Im well aware of that, but incase you have forgotten, you referred DIRECTLY to the United States and the 1st Amendment or for your direct quote "It's what our country was and is founded on!", my point was addressing that statement directly and despite my short list of other countries having a similar democratic government doesnt mean they are ruled or governed by the same laws as those of us IN the United States, just like this forum is not ruled by the same "laws" as the United States.

Did you happen to skip over the rules listed when you registered for this website and just check the little box and click accept? Perhaps you did, so here they are again, Ive taken the liberty to highlight a few key passages.

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Now basically that says the Admins and Moderators have the right to do what they feel is in best interest for the forum (not every individual member) and they can do so as they see fit and if you dont like it, you are more than welcome to leave.

Have you ever been to a REAL Communist or related third world hell hole.

Nope, I dont fly :tup:

 

[Flyin Ryan]

Re: Hu Ryde

I don't really care about the penis envy on here.. every forum has it so im not getting involved. I do however believe that people should be able to post about issues with products and vendors for others to work off of. I want to be able to see feedback on things or problems and see how they were handled by the vender so when the time comes to dump 1k, 2k or whateve out for a turbo or engine combo I feel 100% about it etc..

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

I don't really care about the penis envy on here.. every forum has it so im not getting involved. I do however believe that people should be able to post about issues with products and vendors for others to work off of. I want to be able to see feedback on things or problems and see how they were handled by the vender so when the time comes to dump 1k, 2k or whateve out for a turbo or engine combo I feel 100% about it etc..

I do agree with you on, both points! I spend my money on a budget just like everyone else. I just hope that the banning / Censor thing doesn't start spilling over worse than it appears to be now cause I'm still going to speak my peace, just don't like any one person having the "power of the tower" so to speak or the thought of any of the rest of us being banned because someone didn't like or agree with what was said.

The penis thing seems to be out of hand here also and even though don't feel one 100% responsible for that due to the unassed follow up comments that he made, will apologize for that to you and the group but it looks like the Capt. has found a loop hole liscense to exploit, especially with those last comments he made. As with most all loop holes.... they only get abused when someone takes it upon themselfe to do so. He must be a little peeved cause he is now taking my reply to another Mod who mad a good point that I replyed to and is still putting the snyde remarks to it even after I agreed to disagree and then said I would ignore him from now on. Oh well! Please see my group post.
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[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

To: Ryan, all members and the other Admins,

First off, please allow me to apologize for my part of this thread getting degraded to "Penis Evny" as Ryan said because I didn't think mine was hanging out. If it was, that was not the intention at all. As a member, I was attempting to bring to light a problem that involved another member and that could happen to any of us and hopefully get some good thought process and feedback, which our group is very good at. Instead this was taken personally and quite a few bad attitude comments and an invitation for me to leave has been offered!

Quote: Originally Posted by James Thomas
"and I am sorry but I have to call that as I see it in plain black and white...... Oppressive, suppressive and third world dictator'ish. It's my call and my call alone and if you don't like it then you will be silenced / delt with."

Capt. Morgans Reply: "EXACTLY! Now youre finally starting to understand how internet forums work. Thank you."

Capt. Morgans Quote: "Did you happen to skip over the rules listed when you registered for this website and just check the little box and click accept? Perhaps you did, so here they are again, Ive taken the liberty to highlight a few key passages."

The owners of SyTy/SGT - Forums reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.
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Now basically that says the Admins and Moderators have the right to do what they feel is in best interest for the forum (not every individual member) and they can do so as they see fit and if you dont like it, you are more than welcome to leave.

It takes a lot more than dumb a@% comments from Capt. Morgan or anyone else to drive me off so I must decline his inventation to just disappear but I now know why others have and others have started different sites. I fight for what's right, keep asking question when needed and will ignor him and his athority because it's pretty plain to see where he is coming from now, or at least to me it is anyway. Seems every time he speaks it just gets worse so I will no longer inflame this situation with no way of correcting it because I have been reminded in writting that his actions are absolute, short of purchasing the site and terminating him.
I have levied my opinion and Capt. Morgan didn't like being questioned about it and now has asked me to leave.


So once again my sincere apologies to the group for submitting an opinion and asking a question that went way out of line due to circumstanses beyond my control. I will not bother anyone further with this as I now know what I need to know.

Happy Holidays All!
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[MR_MNZTR_SY]

Re: Hu Ryde

after reading through all this my only real thought was "holy crap, james, shut up."

firstly, we're a buncha car guys. subjects like "penis envy" are common place and as well they should be. ya dont like it? i say go back to interior decorating with all the other sissies. im so tired of people beating around the bush when it comes to "low brow" topics or humor. we're men! SHIT!

secondly, i've been a member of this board for almost 4 years now. i've come and gone a few times and will probably continue that pattern. i get all jazzed up about the truck and start hitting the boards again, and then something breaks and i lose interest in them until its fixed. its a cycle that may never be broken. either way, i've learned, as a grown up, that if i do extensive searching (READ: RESEARCH, WORK, INVESTING TIME INTO A PROJECT BEFORE I DROP LOADS OF MONEY ON SOMETHING) i get quite a bit of information on everything i need to know, from good and bad vendors, to installation tips, to what products are better than others. i've kept my nose clean and never once put myself into a position where i needed a talking to from the mods. ya know why?

cuz im not a ****ing baby.

live by the old rule of "dont start none, wont get none" and things seem to turn out fine. the mods here do a decent job and like morgan said, banning IS the easy way out. he (and others) dont have time for peoples garbage. this isnt the real world, there is no reason to try and become king....unless you cant do that out in the real world and must find gratification in a made up environment

but i digress and am doing exactly what i said i'd never do and thats throw a flag up to the mods by stirring the pot. so i'll just slip back into the shadows now where i belong. well, that and its 3:20 in the a.m. and im kinda done with typing.

 

[MR_MNZTR_SY]

Re: Hu Ryde

aw buttsecks. i was editied haha.

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

Sorry I do live in the real world, I think you may have missed the point. Comment noted and taken under advise.
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[SY2932]

Re: Hu Ryde

Egads, what a train wreck this has become :roll:. I posted my opinion in the admin & mod area when this whole mess started over a week ago. Just for the record, I will state my piece here... I have owned my truck for over six years. In that time, I have been to several NATS, wrenching sessions, get togethers and even met with owners to help them out on occasions. I have seen LOTS of people both good and bad, come and go. There has never been a shortage of drama on here, and I won't mention any of it for fear of opening up a can of worms.

I have personally met Jesse Allmyer (Hu Ryde), on several occasions. He is a web designer and designed the web pages of js manufacturing, turbo time, detroit turbo and the Hoovers to name a few. However, js manufacturing and detroit turbo are no longer mentioned as his clients here. I was one of the first members on his "other" board and was urged to invite others who would be worth while contributors to the cause as were others who made up the initial "core" of syty-tech.

First and foremost in the early years, Jesse was ALL about broadening the knowledge of these trucks. Currently his old webpage is down that contained information that any syty owner would find both useful and informative. Like all the other admins & mods on here, my account on syty-tech has been disabled. I like to think that it was due to my inactivity on there but, I don't can't say for sure. I sent him a PM explaining my position but, I guess I won't be hearing from him anytime soon (on here anyways).

I can't speak for him but, he seems to have a grievance with anyone on here who is admin or moderator who was a member on his forum. Apparently, he thinks the "good old boy network" is in effect and we are all in solidarity harassing him on here when nothing could be further from the truth. However, one thing that we all are unified in is keeping the peace on here. He was once an asset to this community. However, coming over here and getting into a pissing match with a vendor and then getting bent out of shape that his posts were deleted in attempt to protect the reputation of the vendor (in his opinion) is ludicrous.

Bottom line is you are new to this forum and you don't have all the facts to make an informed decision about if this is the "hill that you want to die on" or not. There is no need to go on a "crusade for the little guy". This is not simply a bunch of rogue mods beating up on a member in an attempt to squelch his opinion. However, someone here DOES hold some animosity towards him as under his screen name now reads "Banned... all's fair, right Jesse?" IMHO, that is a grade school prank at best... Banning him seemed a bit extreme to me but there were more civil ways to go about conflict resolution than the path he chose. I find it ironic that the sticky at the top of the lounge was one started by him...

 

[QUICK STORM]

Re: Hu Ryde

wow, what a bunch of crap

do you have a sy, ty or a so-gt, james?

this board is mainly for members who OWN or are looking to purchase a vehicle, so they join to recieve help from members in there area. if you have no intentions of either of the above, then why join?

why are you trying so hard to pry on this subject. the admin/mods here do an excellent job of keeping the flow at a acceptable pace on this bulletin board. the way i see it is, you got a fine running machine. now, if the propshaft breaks, you fix it. if the vehicle needs a tune-up, you get a little dirty to clean it up.

do you know huryde personally, if not, don't play his internet daddy. he is a big boy, if he wanted to stay a member, i'm sure he would still be. let him fight his own fight.

oh, and if you want to purchase the bb, you gotta run the nats too:tup:

merry:colors:christmas a day late!

 

[T-Bone]

Re: Hu Ryde

Seems every time he speaks it just gets worse so I will no longer inflame this situation with no way of correcting it because I have been reminded in writting that his actions are absolute, short of purchasing the site and terminating him.
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James R. Thomas

James, How can you criticize the actions of the site moderators regarding HuRyde when you publically post that if you purchased the site, you would terminate Morgan for comments he made that offended you??? Seems your actions would then be absolute as well which is the very thing you find abrasive on their part. It is obvious you like power and being in control. I'm retired military as well so just realize the free world doesn't operate like the military. Is this site perfect...NO. Are you contributing to improve it...NO. Maybe it is time for you to PCS to a new site .

 

[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

Egads, what a train wreck this has become :roll:. I posted my opinion in the admin & mod area when this whole mess started over a week ago. Just for the record, I will state my piece here... I have owned my truck for over six years. In that time, I have been to several NATS, wrenching sessions, get togethers and even met with owners to help them out on occasions. I have seen LOTS of people both good and bad, come and go. There has never been a shortage of drama on here, and I won't mention any of it for fear of opening up a can of worms.

I have personally met Jesse Allmyer (Hu Ryde), on several occasions. He is a web designer and designed the web pages of js manufacturing, turbo time, detroit turbo and the Hoovers to name a few. However, js manufacturing and detroit turbo are no longer mentioned as his clients here. I was one of the first members on his "other" board and was urged to invite others who would be worth while contributors to the cause as were others who made up the initial "core" of syty-tech.

First and foremost in the early years, Jesse was ALL about broadening the knowledge of these trucks. Currently his old webpage is down that contained information that any syty owner would find both useful and informative. Like all the other admins & mods on here, my account on syty-tech has been disabled. I like to think that it was due to my inactivity on there but, I don't can't say for sure. I sent him a PM explaining my position but, I guess I won't be hearing from him anytime soon (on here anyways).

I can't speak for him but, he seems to have a grievance with anyone on here who is admin or moderator who was a member on his forum. Apparently, he thinks the "good old boy network" is in effect and we are all in solidarity harassing him on here when nothing could be further from the truth. However, one thing that we all are unified in is keeping the peace on here. He was once an asset to this community. However, coming over here and getting into a pissing match with a vendor and then getting bent out of shape that his posts were deleted in attempt to protect the reputation of the vendor (in his opinion) is ludicrous.

Bottom line is you are new to this forum and you don't have all the facts to make an informed decision about if this is the "hill that you want to die on" or not. There is no need to go on a "crusade for the little guy". This is not simply a bunch of rogue mods beating up on a member in an attempt to squelch his opinion. However, someone here DOES hold some animosity towards him as under his screen name now reads "Banned... all's fair, right Jesse?" IMHO, that is a grade school prank at best... Banning him seemed a bit extreme to me but there were more civil ways to go about conflict resolution than the path he chose. I find it ironic that the sticky at the top of the lounge was one started by him...

Mike, That is a very clear honest to the point reply and I respect that. Please don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you... it's not even really Capt. Morgan personally, it's his comment's and attitude. I only slightly mention "our country" and he starts the 1st Amendment thing that gets worse from there. You appear very straight, to the point and seem not to have any bias in any direction which I would think would be very correct for an admin / mod. Not asking for a reply but do you personally really feel that Morgans replys and attitude reflect being a good professional mod.
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[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

wow, what a bunch of crap

do you have a sy, ty or a so-gt, james?

this board is mainly for members who OWN or are looking to purchase a vehicle, so they join to recieve help from members in there area. if you have no intentions of either of the above, then why join?

why are you trying so hard to pry on this subject. the admin/mods here do an excellent job of keeping the flow at a acceptable pace on this bulletin board. the way i see it is, you got a fine running machine. now, if the propshaft breaks, you fix it. if the vehicle needs a tune-up, you get a little dirty to clean it up.

do you know huryde personally, if not, don't play his internet daddy. he is a big boy, if he wanted to stay a member, i'm sure he would still be. let him fight his own fight.

oh, and if you want to purchase the bb, you gotta run the nats too:tup:

merry:colors:christmas a day late!

I said my peace, I guess you missed the point. You said your peace, I got the point. Noted
By the way I am not fighting anyones fight, if Hu Ryde wanted to make a comment I'm sure he would... except that he has been banned and no longer could if he wanted to... and it could be anyone else for that mater, that's the the point.
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[James Thomas]

Re: Hu Ryde

James, How can you criticize the actions of the site moderators regarding HuRyde when you publically post that if you purchased the site, you would terminate Morgan for comments he made that offended you??? Seems your actions would then be absolute as well which is the very thing you find abrasive on their part. It is obvious you like power and being in control. I'm retired military as well so just realize the free world doesn't operate like the military. Is this site perfect...NO. Are you contributing to improve it...NO. Maybe it is time for you to PCS to a new site .

You severly misunderstand, please go back and look where It say's for non-profit and operated by the members, that means OPEN VOTE. Sorry troop! I am not a control freak and PCS usually goes from S.N.A.F.U. to T.A.R.F.U. and lands at F.U.B.A.R. and that is not in my S.O.P. I am an owner and I do contribute, I also learn from. Comment Noted.
I guess you missed my apology also.
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[GM TURBO]

Re: Hu Ryde

I love winter.

We go through this every year.

I'm sad to see Jesse go. I don't know all the other BS that surrounded the situation and what members left because of him - but he was a very smart, helpful person.