How to install stock arm coil overs

[BigBadSmoosh]

Re: How to install stock arm coil overs

You need to tighten the springs lot more, my locking rings are 2.25" from the top thread of the shock body. I am at 27" or 27.5" of ride height

that is what i was looking to hear.. i'll have to adjust them tonight.. the spanner wrenches don't fit with everything in the way.. so i either have to take everything apart and take them out.. or use a hammer and a chisel/punch to rotate the collars..

 

[dgoodhue]

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From another thread I posted in, you see how much more my springs are compressed.

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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wow, and i was going to call you yesterday, but i for some reason didn't have your number in my phone.. stupid stupid stupid.. ohh well looks like i have alot more work todo tonight when i get home..

 

[dgoodhue]

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that is what i was looking to hear.. i'll have to adjust them tonight.. the spanner wrenches don't fit with everything in the way.. so i either have to take everything apart and take them out.. or use a hammer and a chisel/punch to rotate the collars..

Take out the coliovers out, I tighten mine on the bench with one end in a vise.

 

[ashman]

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smaug, did you have to remove anything (ball joints, tie rods, half shaft) to get these in?

IOW, can you install these as easy as regular shocks?

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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smaug, did you have to remove anything (ball joints, tie rods, half shaft) to get these in?

IOW, can you install these as easy as regular shocks?

nope, not as easy.. had to split the ball joints (I didn't replace them) and then slide them in.. tonight I MIGHT try to slide them out even though it is REALLY tight.. since I have to tighten the spring quite a bit..

 

[E-Rue]

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tighten them on the truck.... dont bother taking them off.......you have the thrust washers.... you should have no issues. see if you can adjust the amount of spacer washers at one end or the other to give you some additional clearance as well. the other thing i really want to know is if you think it will be possible to use the poly bushing ends on teh shocks rather than the rod ends. the JS arms have too much angle in them to use poly, but i think we can get away with it on the stock arms as long as the shock angle is fairly straight.

e

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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tighten them on the truck.... dont bother taking them off.......you have the thrust washers.... you should have no issues. see if you can adjust the amount of spacer washers at one end or the other to give you some additional clearance as well. the other thing i really want to know is if you think it will be possible to use the poly bushing ends on teh shocks rather than the rod ends. the JS arms have too much angle in them to use poly, but i think we can get away with it on the stock arms as long as the shock angle is fairly straight.

e

the rod ends that I have seem to move fairly easily.. if the poly ends were more stiff i'd be all for them as once you have the shock in the position you want it will move when driving it around and might cause clearance issues..

I will be working on this tonight, its going to be a late night, hopefully with good results though. :tup:

 

[E-Rue]

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you should have enough washers in there so that the shock fits tight...... it shouldnt move at all.

e

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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you should have enough washers in there so that the shock fits tight...... it shouldnt move at all.

e

the "shock" rotates around the bearings that are installed.. the mounts are tight with washers.. but the shock housing can be "spun" around the bearings if you know what i mean.

 

[MRKING]

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I couldnt adjust my coils in the truck either . There just isnt room to get from one notch to the other . From where mine sits and where i want it , I need to have it a few threads from the bottom . On your ty , I bet the bottom thread would level your front with your back .

Im glad to see it was an easy install on your truck , an alignment should clear your camber problem .

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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I couldnt adjust my coils in the truck either . There just isnt room to get from one notch to the other . From where mine sits and where i want it , I need to have it a few threads from the bottom . On your ty , I bet the bottom thread would level your front with your back .

Im glad to see it was an easy install on your truck , an alignment should clear your camber problem .

I don't want it to sit level with my rear.. as i currently have airshocks in the rear just to ensure it doesn't bottom out.. this is temporary.. i like the truck sitting low.. just not so low that it bottoms out and ruins anything..

I'll probably take apart what I did tonight and hope for the best.. its going to be a late night. :rant:

 

[BigBadSmoosh]

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ok, update..

just got back from the first test drive..

the good:

the suspension is soft and feels great.. the truck now feels softer than my 2001 zr2, and 1994 honda civic.. with the zq8 box steering is super responsive and very very tight.. I'm very impressed there is such a difference.. no more truck suspension, the shocks are on their softest setting and there is 2.0 inches from the top of the threads to the top of the billet plates..

The bad:

something is hitting, i still think it is the spring and the driver's side axle shaft.. you can feel it when braking and it is definitely a revolution type rubbing.. danielle said she smelt something burning I pulled over and nothing was red hot.. so even if it is rubbing it isn't heating up all that much.. I'm going to check over everything again tomorrow and maybe do a boost launch or two (there is no gas in the truck right now)

So far with the coil-overs in front and the cheapo air shocks in back the truck feels alot more like a sport truck should feel... I'm a believer. I also had to do some extra grinding tonight and will probably replace an upper ball joint while i'm in there tomorrow... I'm running out of time before homecoming but enjoying every challenge and especially the pay offs...

 

[sytyguy]

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ok, update..

just got back from the first test drive..

the good:

the suspension is soft and feels great.. the truck now feels softer than my 2001 zr2, and 1994 honda civic.. with the zq8 box steering is super responsive and very very tight.. I'm very impressed there is such a difference.. no more truck suspension, the shocks are on their softest setting and there is 2.0 inches from the top of the threads to the top of the billet plates..

The bad:

something is hitting, i still think it is the spring and the driver's side axle shaft.. you can feel it when braking and it is definitely a revolution type rubbing.. danielle said she smelt something burning I pulled over and nothing was red hot.. so even if it is rubbing it isn't heating up all that much.. I'm going to check over everything again tomorrow and maybe do a boost launch or two (there is no gas in the truck right now)

So far with the coil-overs in front and the cheapo air shocks in back the truck feels alot more like a sport truck should feel... I'm a believer. I also had to do some extra grinding tonight and will probably replace an upper ball joint while i'm in there tomorrow... I'm running out of time before homecoming but enjoying every challenge and especially the pay offs...

Eric, not to state the obvious, but be careful with the rubbing condition. This is the same thing that kept occuring with me and the PEP kit. The lower part of the spring would hit the CV axle and eventually would put enough stress on the assembly to break the shock (and thus the sole source of suspension support). Luckily it always happened when pulling into the yard or store, so it never was an immediate safety concern. But, if it had happened on a corner under full stress, well....you can imagine the consequences.

Try wrapping some tape around the axle in the suspect spot and see if it gets rubbed off or shows wear. Shouldn't have to as it will probably be obvious where is's rubbing.

I'm glad to hear of the promises. I'm def looking into this kit in the future. Thanks for all the pioneering work, Eric.

Hood

 

[Raist103]

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nice i would love to do this set up maybe once you get done i can stop up there and you can help me. once i get bcash.

 

[MRKING]

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Eric is this the pic of the suspect side ? On the shocks lower bushing sleeve thats held in by the clips , you can file or grind away the left side enough for at least another 1/4 inch clearance (not the shock body , just the 5/8 i.d. tube that sticks out one side).

Thats my worst case senario advice , but i think you can get it by playing with your washers some more.

 

['JustDreamin']

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More deleted posts....I know that Smaug posted pics yesterday (6/20)...Were'd they go?

EDIT: According to Renz, the server crashed, and the site was restored from a backup (like 2 days old). Hate it when servers crash....But they're usually easier to fix than crashed Sy's or Ty's

'JustDreamin'

 

[fivetodrive]

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Did we ever get a report on these and the trip to homecoming???

I know that some of us are waiting to hear how they are working!!!

Thanks!

 

[Raist103]

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eric took me for a ride and they are AAAAAAA+++++++++ I WILL BE getting a set or 2 one day when i have money.

 

[ashman]

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maybe smaug can give a report on how the suspension did on the trip.