broke an axle on launch at atco tonite.... pretty scary

MPE Racing Fab

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ed hess said:
gentleman ,

And with that said y'all are now wondering how in the world can this guy be the same as the fabricator ed keeps talkin about...

all i can say is things get prettty humorous amongst us at times...

anyway keith stopped by my shop at 430pm.... dont know what had gotten ahold of him but at 530pm he had removed the old dif and took it away and was gone..... couple days i guess he will be back with my new 8.5 ass'y with huge huge brakes and a bling bling cap support type cover.

when keith has had some coffee and he is ready to start workin all i can say is watch your hands and feet..... just get out of the way.
:D

ed

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Nova67ss

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MPE Racing Fab.

Hi, I would bee over every weekend for racing BUT, caschflow problems is mandatory in my world :D

But Mrsyclone (Robert in sweden) have asked me to join him over for the race with his syclone and I said yes.. know for that money prob,, its gona bee a budget X-mas for my son this year. I´ll have my X-mas gift "over at your place at the race. :lol: "
 

ed hess

race or get outta the way
ya know while i am at it ...ever since the cam change i have been fighting the brakes with only 10 lb vacumm. Vac cannister didnt help for squat. so going to do brake upgrade.


rear will be using larger diameter impala drums.
(drums hold better at the line than disc).
russell braided ss lines at fleixble points on rear and 2 front corners. speedbleeders.
new pads up front.
longer studs all the way around.
abs is coming out.
master cylinder and vac booster is getting swapped out for a Gran nat'l style powermaster.

i think the smaller size of the powermaster unit will not only clean up under the hood but allow better braking regardless of vacumm , engine speed etc, but also make valve cover and or head removal on pass side much easier.

not to mention provide better brake performance when shutting down in the event that the motor has shut down.

parts are all here allready.

ed<---- no longer going to live and race on the edge.
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
you might want to reconsider the GN pump setup. unless sombody is making a better one they break alot. I am going to put hydro boost in mine!
 

ed hess

race or get outta the way
bigtime said:
you might want to reconsider the GN pump setup. unless sombody is making a better one they break alot. I am going to put hydro boost in mine!

i kind of expected to hear this response

my thoughts on them breaking alot.... having read the gn boards about this... the gn's are old. I imagine they werent breaking during their 1st few years of service. I can fully understand them breaking as time goes on.

if we find a lot of failures on this install i can allways go back to a vac booster setup with an external vac pump or the hydroboost. harry has a pm setup in his fbird, billy verzilli has it in hs gn (10.00), and keith has been around the gn world for a time also. anything can break or wear out.
then again i will most likely end up with a chute on the back of this before spring anyway.

ya knowi wonder what its like when you pull a chute at 100+ ..does it make a car wiggle around on the initial hit or does it keep going straight?

ed
 

MPE Racing Fab

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Nova67ss said:
MPE Racing Fab.

Hi, I would bee over every weekend for racing BUT, caschflow problems is mandatory in my world :D

But Mrsyclone (Robert in sweden) have asked me to join him over for the race with his syclone and I said yes.. know for that money prob,, its gona bee a budget X-mas for my son this year. I´ll have my X-mas gift "over at your place at the race. :lol: "

NICE, when are you two due? next spring?
 

MPE Racing Fab

New member
ed hess said:
ya know while i am at it ...ever since the cam change i have been fighting the brakes with only 10 lb vacumm. Vac cannister didnt help for squat. so going to do brake upgrade.


rear will be using larger diameter impala drums.
(drums hold better at the line than disc).
russell braided ss lines at fleixble points on rear and 2 front corners. speedbleeders.
new pads up front.
longer studs all the way around.
abs is coming out.
master cylinder and vac booster is getting swapped out for a Gran nat'l style powermaster.

i think the smaller size of the powermaster unit will not only clean up under the hood but allow better braking regardless of vacumm , engine speed etc, but also make valve cover and or head removal on pass side much easier.

not to mention provide better brake performance when shutting down in the event that the motor has shut down.

parts are all here allready.

ed<---- no longer going to live and race on the edge.


SSSSHHHHHHHH Ed, you're not supposed to tell everyone your secrets!!!
:tup:
 

myclone

Donating Member
ed hess said:
bigtime said:
you might want to reconsider the GN pump setup. unless sombody is making a better one they break alot. I am going to put hydro boost in mine!

i kind of expected to hear this response

my thoughts on them breaking alot.... having read the gn boards about this... the gn's are old. I imagine they werent breaking during their 1st few years of service. I can fully understand them breaking as time goes on.

Youll hate the power master the first time you hit the brakes and you have none. Yes, they prolly werent crapping out right and left new but they do now and over the counter replacements are a crap shoot on getting one thats any good out of the box.

My vote is for hydra boost and there is one company that I know of that specializes in that unit for hot rods although I havent personally checked them out (Ive just seen their advertisement). http://www.hydroboost.com/
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
The thing about chutes is you pull it before you need it while your foot is still on the gas. I drop mine at the 1000' line. i use 2 so when they hit i'm straight and slowing quick. when i used to have one it would wiggle around a little as its moving around in the air that you just disturbed.
 

ed hess

race or get outta the way
well just going to see how it goes. if it isnt any good just have to fix it like anything else.... then again i remember when i put the line locks in... people were telling me here it was a mistake because they could fail...

so what happens if you have hydroboost and the motor shuts down at the end of a run as you are tyring to brake.... do you still have some residual pressure available?

ed
 

ed hess

race or get outta the way
bigtime said:
Ive never seen a line lock fail but i have changed about 10 GN boosters out

bob

how old were the units?

found my anser to the above question;

Q: What is the nitrogen reserve / accumulator bottle and what are its benefits?
A: The bottle on the side of most hydraulic brake assist units is referred to as an accumulator or nitrogen reserve. This stores up hydraulic power steering pressure in case of an engine stall condition to provide reserve brake assist power for up to 3 applications of the brake, similar to how a vacuum booster would act in an engine stall condition. Upon the first application of the brakes after an engine stall, you would find approximately 60 - 75% of the normal assist available, then if you were to release and apply the brakes again, you would find approximately 30 - 40% assist, then again approximately 10 - 20%, until you have depleted all stored reserve assist. Once you use up all of the stored pressure, the brakes will no longer have power assist and will be manual in their operations. The minute you start the vehicle back up again, the accumulator gets filled back up with pressurized ps fluid again and is ready to go!



ed
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
ed hess said:
bigtime said:
Ive never seen a line lock fail but i have changed about 10 GN boosters out

bob

how old were the units?

ed

One was from GM and only lasted a couple of weeks. your call. I just don't see any reason to use that technology when it wasn't very good from the begining. You might never have a problem with one but i personally would do the hydroboost. Another thing you might want to upgrade those front brakes. that alone will let launch at a higher rpm as the stockers have no surface clamping area.
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ed hess

race or get outta the way
So i just pulled off front wheels. I see all this grease on backside of drivers wheel. I m thinkin, no, no way did i break 2 at the smae time. look at boot and sure enough drivers front shaft is snapped off right as it enters the boot.

guess when the rear broke all the torq had to be distributed to the rest of the shafts and ...SNAP!

so i guess this one goes down into the record books for breaking the front and back at the same time.

ed
 

MikeRenz

not stock
ed hess said:
So i just pulled off front wheels. I see all this grease on backside of drivers wheel. I m thinkin, no, no way did i break 2 at the smae time. look at boot and sure enough drivers front shaft is snapped off right as it enters the boot.

guess when the rear broke all the torq had to be distributed to the rest of the shafts and ...SNAP!

so i guess this one goes down into the record books for breaking the front and back at the same time.

ed
wow. Nice! Can you take some non-condom pics of the front axle too? :D
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
you could have broke that front shaft earlier and thats why the back broke.

Thinking outside of the box.........

Hey renz can we get a photo chop of that on the back of the plowtruck?
 
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