750 hp @ 25psi...
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Hey Peter,
The list is really long on my build and I'll forget half of it. I've never seen the full description of your build so let's kill two birds with one stone. You list what you consider to be the key components of your build and I'll tell you what is comparable in mine.
As for the tranny I am running a 4L60E so that I can fine tune the shift points, shift firmness, etc. Your complaints of the tires breaking on the 1/2 shift put me over the edge to go this route so I should thank you. :wink: I thought long and hard about the Hartman kit, but went with a local builder for a few reasons...cost, someone local to fix it if it breaks (don't kid yourself nothing is perfect), the builder is excited about doing it, and he is guaranteeing the tranny for two race season's against friction burnout. Works for me.
Hey Dean,
i've put it up before on UBB, but for some reason I can't find it on under Search. Anyway, unlike ALOT of other sy/ty'ers which I resent, I have no problem sharin my build as me, BG, and a few others pretty much pioneered this build and its been sold like candy now. Here it is:
stock block
TRW piston
stock crank shot peened, nitrated
Eagle rods
Mc Coy stage II heads
Stokes cam
stock tranny
9/11
stock T case, rear, and shafts
72 # inj
SP
custom A/A by AR Autosports
T72 BB .83 hsg
Hey Dean,
i've put it up before on UBB, but for some reason I can't find it on under Search. Anyway, unlike ALOT of other sy/ty'ers which I resent, I have no problem sharin my build as me, BG, and a few others pretty much pioneered this build and its been sold like candy now. Here it is:
stock block
TRW piston
stock crank shot peened, nitrated
Eagle rods
Mc Coy stage II heads
Stokes cam
stock tranny
9/11
stock T case, rear, and shafts
72 # inj
SP
custom A/A by AR Autosports
T72 BB .83 hsg
ATR DP
HKS WG on DP
BFG DR's on stock rims
1.6 rockers
thats about it.....so, now whats yours?
I agree. There is no point keeping it all secret, because it all comes out in the end anyways. I've been asked to keep some of the details of my build confidential by a couple of the people involved. I respect that, but otherwise its all fair game. As for your build being sold like candy, I think it just seems that way because you are fairly close to the limit of what can be done to within the confines of the Modified class at the Nats. I picked that as my limit or where would it end? I always said if it wasn't AWD it isn't a SyTy in my books. And Bowtie blocks are still a grey area for me so the rules of the modified class seemed to suit me. And I think there are a few other people that share my view (like you apparently) hence there is a small group of us pushing the envelope so to speak.
Anyways here is a comparison of our builds:
stock block - My stock block has a partial fill on the bottom end to beef it up considerably and has been cryo'd, as are all the hard parts in my engine.
pistons - I am running cryo-treated JE SRP pistons. 565gm for the TRWs vs 496gm for these. I was going to run 443gm JEs but the builder thought they were too light (read not strong enough).
stock crank shot peened, nitrated - Mine is cryo treated and nitrated. Not sure about the shot peening.
Eagle rods - Ditto. Cryo treated. I was gonna go Carillo but the builder told me they aren't anywhere near twice as good as the Eagles to justify double the price.
Mc Coy stage II heads - Here's the bulk of the proprietary stuff. Very trick. As a start we cut up a Vortec head just to see what we were up against. :wink:
Stokes cam - Haven't settled on the cam just yet. See the notes on the rocker arms...
Stock tranny - More proprietary stuff here. :wink:
9/11 - I am going with a different convertor with a custom billet stator.
stock T case, rear, and shafts - Stock T case for me too. Don't foresee any problems there. Stock diff with an lpw aluminum rear cover. If that lets go I'll go to something beefier. I'm having custom chromoly driveshafts fabricated. No one in the know has any faith in aluminum. :wink:
72# injectors - I'm going to start with something in the 83#/85# range.
SpeedPro - F.A.S.T = SpeedPro...Ditto
custom A/A by AR Autosports - I'm running the DeQuick Dual Air to Air. Got the DeQuick aluminum radiator with dual electrics too for good measure. :wink:
T72 BB .83 hsg - I am planning on running a P-trim T-72 with a dual ball bearing Garrett center section and .85 PTE Syclone exhaust housing. May try a T76 once this setup is all tuned. No one seems to get any good streetability from that turbo though.
ATR DP - see above...
HKS WG on DP - see above...
DR's on stock rims - BFG DR's on ZR1s. 315 rear, 275 front.
1.6 rockers - waiting on a final decision until the heads are ported, flowed, and we have some numbers.
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Dean Higson
http://www.turbogm.com
1991 GMC Syclone #1406 *** Scary Fast Buildup in Progress ***
1992 GMC Typhoon #2194 13.2@101 on 17# boost
2000 SVT Lightning #4320 - 623 miles
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Anyways here is a comparison of our builds:
stock block - My stock block has a partial fill on the bottom end to beef it up considerably and has been cryo'd, as are all the hard parts in my engine.
pistons - I am running cryo-treated JE SRP pistons. 565gm for the TRWs vs 496gm for these. I was going to run 443gm JEs but the builder thought they were too light (read not strong enough).
stock crank shot peened, nitrated - Mine is cryo treated and nitrated. Not sure about the shot peening.
Eagle rods - Ditto. Cryo treated. I was gonna go Carillo but the builder told me they aren't anywhere near twice as good as the Eagles to justify double the price.
Mc Coy stage II heads - Here's the bulk of the proprietary stuff. Very trick. As a start we cut up a Vortec head just to see what we were up against. :wink:
Stokes cam - Haven't settled on the cam just yet. See the notes on the rocker arms...
Stock tranny - More proprietary stuff here. :wink:
9/11 - I am going with a different convertor with a custom billet stator.
stock T case, rear, and shafts - Stock T case for me too. Don't foresee any problems there. Stock diff with an lpw aluminum rear cover. If that lets go I'll go to something beefier. I'm having custom chromoly driveshafts fabricated. No one in the know has any faith in aluminum. :wink:
72# injectors - I'm going to start with something in the 83#/85# range.
SpeedPro - F.A.S.T = SpeedPro...Ditto
custom A/A by AR Autosports - I'm running the DeQuick Dual Air to Air. Got the DeQuick aluminum radiator with dual electrics too for good measure. :wink:
T72 BB .83 hsg - I am planning on running a P-trim T-72 with a dual ball bearing Garrett center section and .85 PTE Syclone exhaust housing. May try a T76 once this setup is all tuned. No one seems to get any good streetability from that turbo though.
ATR DP - see above...
HKS WG on DP - see above...
DR's on stock rims - BFG DR's on ZR1s. 315 rear, 275 front.
1.6 rockers - waiting on a final decision until the heads are ported, flowed, and we have some numbers.
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Dean Higson
http://www.turbogm.com
1991 GMC Syclone #1406 *** Scary Fast Buildup in Progress ***
1992 GMC Typhoon #2194 13.2@101 on 17# boost
2000 SVT Lightning #4320 - 623 miles
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ghettosled
SYTY SUPERSTORE
Dean.. Let me know if you need help on the 72 dual ball bearing. ITS just started production last week, and the upgrade is $700. Night and day difference from anything I have seen yet!
ghostrider_85
New member
try 30k guys! i have the receipt, ha!
what the heck is that aldl tuning mean? thanks...
what the heck is that aldl tuning mean? thanks...
ghostrider_85
New member
there really is alot that went into this vehilce, yes thats U.S. dollars!
ghettosled
SYTY SUPERSTORE
if you gave $30k to Stokes you would have a truck that runs 10.31 @ 132. It even says it makes 750hp on the reciept. I've heard this from several people so I know its true. :smile:
Need to consider what was done too.. wasn't just an engine.
Full motor workup
all the bolt ons for that motor (headers/turbo/downpipe/intercooler)
FAST/Speedpro & tuning (yes you receive the truck tuned :razz: )
Fuel system (injectors, Weldon pump, custom tank setup)
Built trans & stall
all the labor to install all of it, and I'm probably missing like 20 things...
So you can see how it adds up.
Full motor workup
all the bolt ons for that motor (headers/turbo/downpipe/intercooler)
FAST/Speedpro & tuning (yes you receive the truck tuned :razz: )
Fuel system (injectors, Weldon pump, custom tank setup)
Built trans & stall
all the labor to install all of it, and I'm probably missing like 20 things...
So you can see how it adds up.
4C FED
Absolutum Dominium
I can 2nd that price and then some. Although I have considerably more into mine, not that I'm proud of that fact or I'm bragging about it. It's just what it has cost me.
That's from the ground up and from the headlights back. Everything that is currently installed.
It is just shy of a frame off restore.
And I'm not quite done. :wink:
That's from the ground up and from the headlights back. Everything that is currently installed.
It is just shy of a frame off restore.
And I'm not quite done. :wink:
ghostrider_85
New member
See, Rick is right, and he knows cause he has been there...30k for just that stuff.
Heck, i got polished ZR-1's, BFgood g-force tires....re-done paint job, custom bed cover/bed rug, the list goes on and on....I probably have 55-60k tied up total with the cost of the vehicle and everything else done to it!!!
my girlfriend gets really pissed when i talk about putting anymoney in it....she calls it the money pit, ha!
i swear though, i am done wasting money on it, i need to save for a house....maybe i'll sell it in a year or two, who knows???
Heck, i got polished ZR-1's, BFgood g-force tires....re-done paint job, custom bed cover/bed rug, the list goes on and on....I probably have 55-60k tied up total with the cost of the vehicle and everything else done to it!!!
my girlfriend gets really pissed when i talk about putting anymoney in it....she calls it the money pit, ha!
i swear though, i am done wasting money on it, i need to save for a house....maybe i'll sell it in a year or two, who knows???
I know how it adds up. Believe me I know... Still seems like a lot to me though. Factoring out the purchase of the Syclone and the cosmetic stuff, $30K U.S. = $50K Cdn. That's alot of money.
Don't even think about selling it unless you've got a big jar of Vaseline around. :wink:
Don't even think about selling it unless you've got a big jar of Vaseline around. :wink: