03 Cobra?

[blk00z28]

I was wondering if any of you guys have raced one? Now I know you guys running in the low 11's will beat most of them, but how about you guys in the mid-high 12's? I know alot of the 03 owners are making a big stink on the ls1 sites, they think there god now... :roll:

 

[93ty475]

Re: 03 Cobra?

I was wondering if any of you guys have raced one? Now I know you guys running in the low 11's will beat most of them, but how about you guys in the mid-high 12's? I know alot of the 03 owners are making a big stink on the ls1 sites, they think there god now... :roll:

my local dealer just picked up the svt franchise recently...last friday, a good friend that works there handed me the keys to a black one and let me drive it around during his lunchhour (without him)...they just received 3...a vert and two regular ones...maybe an 04? didnt check...i wasnt as impressed as i thought i'd be...i downloaded a video the other day of an 03...the vid was shot from inside the car...it broke loose in first and second just with throttle (in the vid)...the one i drove didnt...the blower sounded badass...the six speed tranny was kinda cool...so were the seats...the front end looked killer too...but for 38,000 dollars, * that...my GT cost aroung 24k...i think a nice 3000 dollar vortech s/c kit in my stang would smoke a new cobra...

i didnt hit the highway in the new cobra however...im not much of a highway, topspeed freak anyway...i think the fastest i got up to was about 90 or so...maybe they rip on top speed...i wouldnt know...he did offer to let me thrash on one again if i'd like to...

 

[Jimmy]

http://www.syty.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=32353

 

[90stangGT]

Re: 03 Cobra?

but for 38,000 dollars, * that...my GT cost aroung 24k...i think a nice 3000 dollar vortech s/c kit in my stang would smoke a new cobra...
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An s-trim kit would cost closer to 4k, not to mention that a stock 2-valve motor won't live long at 400+rwhp, stock cobras are dynoing around 375 to the tires. The cobra is a far superior car in every respect than the GT, there are several racers running 03 cobras pushing 700-800 hp on "stock" internals. Some are using nitrous and the KB blowzilla.

 

[AlaskaTy]

There's a guy in alaska that's running 11.2s with about $1000 put into it

 

[93ty475]

Re: 03 Cobra?

An s-trim kit would cost closer to 4k

i'll meet you half way on that one...Mustang 4.6-GT SQ S-Trim supercharger, 6-8 psi (+140 hp)...$3500.00...(not just a tuner kit)

not to mention that a stock 2-valve motor won't live long at 400+rwhp

here's a few quotes from Christopher Ihara (owner of the corral forum):
"After the V2-SQ was installed the Vortech Supercharged Mongoose 99 project car spun the dyno hard enough to yield 350.7 HP and 353.4 lb/ft of SAE corrected torque and horsepower at the rear wheels! That's roughly 412 bhp and 415 lb/ft of torque at the flywheel!!"

stock cobras are dynoing around 375 to the tires.

"Keeping our foot out of the gas pedal has proven to be exceedingly difficult with over 400 horsepower on tap. With the V2-SQ it is far too easy - and fun - to obliterate the tires in almost any gear. So it is always very easy to tell how much fun we've been having if we have to refuel around 200 miles after the last fill-up."

The cobra is a far superior car in every respect than the GT,

maybe so...

there are several racers running 03 cobras pushing 700-800 hp on "stock" internals. Some are using nitrous and the KB blowzilla.

i never new that much less did i argue that point...stock cobra vs. stock mustang + vortech s/c kit....

i think a nice 3000 dollar vortech s/c kit in my stang would smoke a new cobra...

i still think an sq s-trim in my stang would smoke a new cobra...maybe you didnt see my point...the new cobra that i drove has a blower...i believe that if anyone installs a vortech (non-tuner kit) in a late model GT, the 38000 dollar cobra would lose...i still dont see where extra 14000 went into the cobra...
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[93ty475]

Re: 03 Cobra?

stock cobras are dynoing around 375 to the tires.

around 320 hp to the rear tires is more like it in stock form....im not arguing that minor mods might bump it up a bit....

 

[90stangGT]

Ok, you're arguing an otherwise stock GT would run a cobra? I disagree, the Cobra has far more potential, in terms of strength in the engine. Most supercharged GTs with exhaust, supporting bolt-ons can hit 400 to the TIRES (in reference to your quote from chris ihara) with a good tune, but the internals will not hold up. The 03 cobra has a strong bottom end, iron block, manley rods, forged pistons, better fuel system, t-56 trans, bigger brakes.....etc. Thats what justisfies the extra cost. Putting a built motor plus a blower on a GT would likely cost near that of a cobra. Are you saying 320 to the tires on a mustang dyno, which has been known to be much lower or the more widely used dynojet readings?

 

[93ty475]

The 03 cobra has a strong bottom end, iron block, manley rods, forged pistons

i guess i'm owned by potential...

i never would've known that just by driving the car for an hour...i was impressed with almost everything about it minus seat of the pants performance...if time permits, i'll see about taking my salesman friend up on a second test drive and dyno it on our new local 1800 hp dynojet to see just what the cobra puts out...the dyno is located about 2 minutes from the dealership and is owned by a good friend of mine...this time i'll take the maroon one :lol: ...


back to seat of the pants performance, i drove a s/c'd 01 GT about a year ago and it felt much faster than the stock cobra...

back to the thread, most syty's nowadays dont have much to worry about (in the eighth or quarter mile) when running a stock cobra IMO... the cobra i drove felt less powerful than my sy did before i tore it down for the forged motor among other things...it didnt blow up, just wanted peace of mind and more power...and i was running 108 max in the quarter, just basic mods, kb headers, and ported stock heads with a 20g...maybe i'll go hunt one down when i'm done and see how the cobra does against 10,000 dollars worth of sy, truck included.....

 

[90stangGT]

back to the thread, most syty's nowadays dont have much to worry about (in the eighth or quarter mile) when running a stock cobra IMO... the cobra i drove felt less powerful than my sy did before i tore it down for the forged motor among other things...it didnt blow up, just wanted peace of mind and more power...and i was running 108 max in the quarter, just basic mods, kb headers, and ported stock heads with a 20g...maybe i'll go hunt one down when i'm done and see how the cobra does against 10,000 dollars worth of sy, truck included.....

I would have to agree with you on that one, the cobras are notorious for being difficult, not impossible, to launch cause of the independent rear suspension, versus the solid axle in the GT. Not many drivers can manage the wheelhop of those things let alone shifting it to its potential. A stock cobra is capable of 12 sec quarters.

 

[blk00z28]

There's a guy in alaska that's running 11.2s with about $1000 put into it

Are you talking about Broke 7???
He's got like $2500 into it, if not more. IF this is the same guy (its Blue)

The reason why I asked, not because I only see 1 around town, but I'm sure there are more out there then around here. As for a good driver and 12's with a 03, let me put it this way...

I was at OSW (Olando Speed World, for those thats been there know they pret sucks, for those that havent, your lucky!) racing my car one night, when we stopped a stock 03 in the pits, still had the sticker on the car, he ran a 12.4 @ xxx, thats kinda why I asked the question, so see how many of you have run across them, granted a good driver in a sy/ty-fbody, hell even a GT might be able to beat one stock, if the drivers good.

 

[J_SULLIVAN]

My friend in Ft. Smith, AR. called me Sunday night and said that a buddy of his got a new '03 Cobra that was 500hp and wanted me to bring the SY. I said nope but I'll bring the Z-71! Anyone ever been in one? I'm going to go take a ride in it around the first of March and I'll take the camcorder w/me to shoot some footage...

 

[Flyin Ryan]

When I was at the track (atco)in October I think.... there was a guy there with a new cobra running 11.76s on

street ETs
Bigger SC pulley
Icing the engine
headlight removed
A custom tunned chip

He said he spent three days tuning the chip alone and this was his first time down the track with it... he ran back to back 11.76s and then an 11.77.

Now whether or not he was telling the truth is a different story but I looked at his engine closely and didn't see anything that wasn't stock at all. To say the least I was impressed.

 

[Maverick87]

Syclone 697 wrote

My friend in Ft. Smith, AR. called me Sunday night and said that a buddy of his got a new '03 Cobra that was 500hp and wanted me to bring the SY

Tell your friend to come down to Centerville the 22nd of feb. thats this sunday and I will run him. just to see what one runs like. :lol:

 

[90stangGT]

When I was at the track (atco)in October I think.... there was a guy there with a new cobra running 11.76s on

street ETs
Bigger SC pulley
Icing the engine
headlight removed
A custom tunned chip

He said he spent three days tuning the chip alone and this was his first time down the track with it... he ran back to back 11.76s and then an 11.77.

Now whether or not he was telling the truth is a different story but I looked at his engine closely and didn't see anything that wasn't stock at all. To say the least I was impressed.

Very possible, the stock pulley only puts out 8psi, the bigger pulley is likely the "lightning" pulley which puts boost between 14-16psi. I've heard of STOCK cars running 12.4s on drag radials. I have subscriptions to both major mustang magazines, they've always got tests for bolt ons for the 03 cobra. I think one of them was for different cold air intakes, with the best one adding 35 hp. I'll see if i can dig it up.

 

[J_SULLIVAN]

You in the Ft. Smith area Mav???

 

[Maverick87]

No I live in the rock I mean little rock. There are going to be a lot of fast cars there.

 

[J_SULLIVAN]

I gave my buddy a call and he said they are going. I PM'd ya... I would go but I'm going to Dallas for the weekend...

 

[Flyin Ryan]

When I was at the track (atco)in October I think.... there was a guy there with a new cobra running 11.76s on

street ETs
Bigger SC pulley
Icing the engine
headlight removed
A custom tunned chip

He said he spent three days tuning the chip alone and this was his first time down the track with it... he ran back to back 11.76s and then an 11.77.

Now whether or not he was telling the truth is a different story but I looked at his engine closely and didn't see anything that wasn't stock at all. To say the least I was impressed.

Very possible, the stock pulley only puts out 8psi, the bigger pulley is likely the "lightning" pulley which puts boost between 14-16psi. I've heard of STOCK cars running 12.4s on drag radials. I have subscriptions to both major mustang magazines, they've always got tests for bolt ons for the 03 cobra. I think one of them was for different cold air intakes, with the best one adding 35 hp. I'll see if i can dig it up.

Yah this guy made it clear that his pulley was helping alot.. but he said that the factory ecm had alot that could be worked out and which he did and is why he's running soo well and that he was extremly happy with what times he was clicking off

 

[90stangGT]

was it a coupe or vert, just wondering...