Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT

Fighting5thSVT

Active member
I am considering a bone stock Typhoon. It has 27k miles and the asking DEALERSHIP price is $18,200. Its a black/black and is extremely clean. First off--what do you guys think of the price for this one?

Secondly, I am trying to figure out a price for the "basic" mods and what kind of hp/et's they will get me. I would like a mid/low 12 truck. The search option on this site wasn't cooperating very well, so I figured I would just ask. Which mods and from which vendor's? I want to keep it streetable and keep the working A/C. I know the turbo will probably need an upgrade--but would like to keep the trans stock if possible (save a few $$). Alky kit would be a must.....

I am just trying to decide if it would be worth the $$ on this car. I am strongly considering a Turbo T or GN. Very easy to get into the high 11's and are very reasonable right now for a very nice one. From what I have read, the Typhoons take alot more work and $$ to respond.

I have owned 3 late 80's S10 blazers and have had a soft spot for these trucks since they were new. Just wondering if my money would be better spent on a turbo buick or one of these.....

Thanks for making it easy!!!:tup:
 
powercat6

powercat6

Active member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

If you are looking to mod a Ty I think you should buy a cheaper one rather than a survivor with low miles. I'm all for the preservation of low mile original Sys and Tys. Besides if you're going to mod one you will probably tear the engine apart anyways so why spend big money on a survivor with low miles?
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

sytys take allot of tuning to get right.. any little change and you have to retune it and it's not like you can just hit the local speed shop and have them throw it up on a dyno and tune it for you. These are not turbo buicks and many people forget that when atempting to tune them.

I'd personally go with a clean turbo buick, there internals are stronger, they can have allot parts thrown at them and run strong with a simple tune from joe blow
 
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nastety92

New member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
I am starting to think you guys don't want me in your clubhouse!!!
I appreciate the advice...anyone else?
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It's not that we don't want you, everyone is just being honest with you.

I love my truck and probably wouldn't trade it for a GN if I had to choose. I've never owned a GN but have been in a few of them.

If I were to do it over again I would start with a shell and build the whole thing. I've replaced or rebuilt most of the parts in my truck at this point.

Good luck,
Nick
 
phoonTy

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
would like to keep the trans stock if possible (save a few $$).
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Trans is possibly the weakest link in the drivetrain, even on bone stock trucks. If you mod one into the 12's or deeper, that would be among the first recommended upgrades. . . So deciding to keep the stock trans to "save money" is not something any of us would recommend. :tup:
 
nello

nello

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Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

For that much money I'd buy a buick too. Easy 11's all day.

Personally I think that's way to much money in this market. Gee, wonder why? Maybe cause it's dealer owned? Here's some advice passed down to me from my cousin, a lawyer in the car business.

Poker face time. Tell the dealer you'll give'em 13k, and commit your entire day to negotiating, without ever budging on your number, unless you feel comfortable giving more. When you sit down listen to what they say, how they can work this #, make it sound affordable, doodle, ect. But let them do all the talking and nod, show them they still have your attention, while ALWAYS being courtious and friendly. The more you waste their time the more they'll feel they've gotta make a sale because if not, they just wasted the entire day, and the bosses won't be happy. " So you sold ZERO cars today?" Sometimes it's not about making as much money as possibe, but just getting a car off the lot. They need turnaround.

When I bought my wifes car they asked me how much I wanted to pay. The first salesman laughed and said my offer wasn't even a real number!!! Maybe not, but it was my budget. So I got shuffled around from salesman, mgr, ect until I got the last guy I made a deal with. I guess the final mgr? Clasic mind fuuck. My budget was 16k for my wifes new car OTD, but of course only I know that. They tried to get me into the most stripped down version of the car made. I told them not even remotely interested then.

So after spending 1pm til closing, think it was 9pm they finally caved and gave me the brand new car I wanted with an MSRP of $18495 + tax +license +ect for 15700 OTD. It was supposed to be $16000 OTD but they screwed up the tax, car was being sold in one county but my driver license was out of another and had a different tax%.

The next day I went in to wrap up some paperwork and the first salesman that had laughed at me came up and shook my hand. Must have been 3 others I'd seen the night before telling me how they made no money off me. :bs: They always make money. Earlier the previous day I told him I was a mortgage broker (which I'm not) so don't play number games with me. This is the reason he felt they couldn't make money off me, "we never had a chance"...whatever works.

I'm almost positive dealers have more wiggle room with used cars than new. They probably gave whoever traded it in like 6k...maybe. Or offset the cost by giving big $$$ for the Ty and then raped the owner on the new car. 13k isn't that far off of kbb so they might bite. Spending 8hours of your time negotiating is far better than having an extra year of payments.


I certainly wouldn't buy a stock truck without bringing a datalogger with me though...and I'd only purchase it if I didn't plan on modding the crap out of the truck for that much $$$ assuming everything is perfect. Extra couple thousand $$$ could get you into the 12's assuming the truck runs as advertised.

Good luck, hope ya get a truck soon.
 
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Ross L

Member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

I'm lucky enough to own both(if you wanna call it that:rotf:). The buick is much, much,much,much,much easier to work on. I open the hood on the Sy and......:squint: close the hood. I'll never sell the Sy though.
Ross
 
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Captain Morgan

Moderated User
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
I am starting to think you guys don't want me in your clubhouse!!!

I appreciate the advice...anyone else?
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oh no not at all, but we also dont want you to go out and buy something thinking its going to be as reliable as a Lightning or as easily built as a Buick.

We see so many people come on here, say how much they have always wanted one of these trucks, go out and buy the first one they come across, usually pay too much, end up with something that needs a lot more than just some TLC, they either get discouraged and sell it or run out of money and sell it.

Granted you certainly dont come off as someone just looking to jump blindly into a SyTy purchase, and yes SyTy can, have and still are used as daily drivers by some people, however getting through all the bugs first is what can be an overwhelming task for some. :tup:
 
Fighting5thSVT

Fighting5thSVT

Active member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Ross L said:
I'm lucky enough to own both(if you wanna call it that:rotf:). The buick is much, much,much,much,much easier to work on. I open the hood on the Sy and......:squint: close the hood. I'll never sell the Sy though.
Ross
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So to those that have/had owned both a SY and a GN--which one has more of a "fun" factor? Which ever one I decide on- will only see the dragstrip 2-3 times a year- but will be driven on every nice day possible. The track "fun" is a no-brainer with the faster GN--but as far as "stoplight to stoplight" fun, which one is better? I have driven 1 high 11 sec and one low 12 sec GN which were fun--but not until after 35mph. Been in one stock Syclone and was dumbfounded by a stoplight launch!

Guess my real question is (if I even have one) is would a slower Typhoon be more fun and enjoyable to drive around town than a faster GN?

I appreciate those of you who have taken to time to give me your honest answers.

GO BLACKHAWKS! (Flyers Capt? Seriously???.....J/K)
 
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Captain Morgan

Moderated User
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
GO BLACKHAWKS! (Flyers Capt? Seriously???.....J/K)
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:rotf:

please... at least the Flyers made the conference finals last year, where were the Blackhawks?? Oh thats right, this is the first year they've made the playoffs in 7 years :rotf:

But nevertheless, Id take Chicago over Detroit :tup:
 
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Ross L

Member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

the buick is much more "simple". Both are a blast to drive but IMO you can't treat either like a mustang(beat it on a daily basis and expect it to live). Track time 3-4 times a year shouldn't be a problem. Of course the "boost launch" has no comparison, but drag radials losing traction through second is fun too:D Can't go wrong either way. Just study up and good luck!
Ross
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
Guess my real question is (if I even have one) is would a slower Typhoon be more fun and enjoyable to drive around town than a faster GN?
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I've owned both and the buick is useless below 35mph... any kinda boost and look out without a good sized tire on it even with a basic stock one so if your going to be doing allot of light to light fun you can't be the awd it's so easy a cave man can do it.

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TYTILIDIE

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

If you want good light to light action, you definitely want the Ty. I should copy my racing vids and send them to you. Its f'in retarded the cars you can take down. IMO, on the street, the Typhoon is by far the most fun vehicle I have ever owned. But like everyone else says, it is a PITA to won one. Beating it means breaking it.
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Its like anything.. the more you beat it the more it'll break it's just that these trucks make so much torque from the factory to begin with shit'll break even more so then a normal 2wd shitbox with the same kind of torque. Look at 700r4 transmissions... they can be built to run 600 to 700hp 2wd cars but dont' stand a chance in a stock syty that see's a decent amount action.. throw some dr's on the syty and your asking for even more pain in the pocket with the 700r4.

If you don't plan on racing it and enjoying it but rather have it for a nice sunday cruiser purchase a completely stock one and you won't have any problems do the normal anal 3k maintenance and you'll be fine and also with these trucks mileage isn't always what you look for because lower the mileage doesn't mean it's in better shape.
 
SY2455

SY2455

70's Veteran
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

Fighting5thSVT said:
In case anyone was curious- here is a link to the one I was considering at the beginning of the tread.....

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?paId=137278305
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You already heard from the guys here, but I just thought that I would let you know after looking at the pictures in the link that you posted.

That the brake pedal has alot more wear then the brake pedal on my truck had with 53,000 miles when I pick it up.
 
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Ross L

Member
Re: Considering a stock Typhoon...

nice looking SUV!. The drivers seat looks nice, very few wrinkles. IMO, the mileage could be correct, Can you find the previous owner(s). What about the original wheels? How much are you comfortable spending on this car? If you like it, get in there and work something out:tup:
 
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