Test and tune - 10/16/10

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Since Homecoming, I have not paid too much attention to the Ty. I had a sudden job change, my grandmother passed away, and started a new and more demanding job. I started an A2A IC change right before things got crazy, and I had to leave it for awhile. With a few days that I could scrounge up the time from, I decided to finish the IC project and try to better my times for the year.

I went to US-131 Motorsport park. It is a really nice track, but it can have some really long lines from time to time. Today was one of those days. I was there for 7 hours and got 5 passes in.

The first 2 passes were real easy passes to verify and change the tune from the IC change. I also only ran 1/8th-mile passes to stay under their radar. I left at 4# of boost and ran it to 20-21# total boost for these passes. I made some changes, and turned it up a little bit.

The third pass was also an 1/8th pass, but I upped the boost to 27# and I left at 5.9#. It really woke the truck up a bunch.

http://www.youtube.com/user/qbnkiller#p/a/u/1/BIf6TErnvzc

The fourth pass I missed another shift really bad..I figured it out, got back into it, and left that Camaro like he was tied to a post...

http://www.youtube.com/user/qbnkiller#p/a/u/2/3rSfDNAHcH4

The last pass was going to be an all-out pass. I left at 9.8# / 2700RPM. By the time I hit 3400rpm, it was up to 29#! I missed that shift also, got back into it, and finished the pass. When I pulled around for my slip, I was thrown out for safety violations (too fast). I got to the trailer, jumped on the laptop, and replayed the log file. Sure enough, I screwed up that shift real good! The funny thing was after I recovered, I never made it passed 49% TPS! The truck was running so strongly that I have no doubt it had a very low-10 second pass if it were clean.

http://www.youtube.com/user/qbnkiller#p/u/3/GC-PeZO_JSI

There will definitely be some naysayers with this, but I logged the run and will be happy to show anyone able to read a BS3 log file.

I learned that I definitely need to get the right govenor springs in the trans! Let that thing do the shifting for me. I also can tell you that these little L35's should be good for a nice 10.1 or so pass in my 3,890# Ty at 30# of boost. Just another example why more of you should be looking seriously into the Bullseye Power turbos!

...for the record, I am running a T3 0.70 A/R 62mm turbo through stock exhaust manifolds (coated,wrapped, not ported or touched whatsoever) through a 3" Magnaflow muffler.
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

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REVEREND HARMON

Party in a box!
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Awesome work alex!...Cant wait to see a full pass once you get all the bugs worked out.

Side note....David with bullseye is the man!! Im running the same turbo as alex and absolutely love it. Im hoping ill have some good numbers at the shindig to show how well the turbo performs.;)
 

ziembic

Donating Member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

What is involved with running the bullseye turbos? Do you need a different downpipe? Do you have to lose the AC to fit it in or use an adapter? You have piqued my interest.
 

autoaddictions

Active member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Time to slap a roll cage in that sled and have at it. Nice
Oh expect to go 2 tenths slower when you do.
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Thanks Frank! Maybe I'll slap on a set of Vortec's to overcome that rollbar penalty!
 

epix

Typhoon
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Nice runs Alex!

If you ever make it down kzoo way in the Typhoon keep your eye open for a GCSRT8, it's pretty quick with it's bolt-ons but still no match at all for your Ty. He's always looking for challenges and according to him he's only lost in it once to some highly modded LSx camaro.

edit: guess he was at the track yesterday as well, maybe ya spotted him, he was running in the 12s
 
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Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

hi Alex. finally some track video it seems that hardly nobody take there Ty-sy to the track .in your last run look like you spun the tire of the hole , would of like to see a clean past. how is the need set-up, with the intercooler. you like it better ,or the old set up. I'm about to buy the intercooler and I'm not shore if i should buy the w/a or the a/a intercooler. :rotf:
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Pete...I did see the black SRT-8 GC there. Looks nice, maybe we can set something up sometime (hehehe)!

Jr...the last pass at 10# spun the tires good, but still managed a 1.71 60'. Mind you that I am still running a set of ET Streets (255-50-16) out back and 225-60-16 Firestone Wide Ovals up front. I have wanted to see just how far I can take this rather inexpensive setup before I go to ET's on all four corners (and break stuff). I do have front-end limiters on the truck, but obviously not enough to keep it down! I will have to really work on that over the winter.

The change to A2A in my case was definitely worthwhile. The system I had before was OK up to around 500RWHP, but got real hot real fast after that. If you were going to do a REAL W2A setup that works, you will likely spend a grand or more on a good unit from Chisled Performance, along with an icebox for it. Otherwise a good A2A IC (properly sized) will do just fine. As an example - at Homecoming (with the old setup), I would start a run around 85* and end the pass over 230* IAT's. With this setup, I started around 117* and ended the pass close to 140*. Call me if you want more info jr!
 

It's just a six

Super Member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Maybe I'll slap on a set of Vortec's to overcome that rollbar penalty!

Nice runs,Ty is really moving!

IMHO,if you change to Vortecs,it's not going to be much of a difference if both heads are ported.:2cents:

Running LB4's then switching to Vortecs or L35's thats going to be the bigger difference/more of a gain.:2cents:
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

What is involved with running the bullseye turbos? Do you need a different downpipe? Do you have to lose the AC to fit it in or use an adapter? You have piqued my interest.

Well...you have a couple of options. If you have a PTE housing, you can send it to David Hall at Bullseye Power and he can add his compressor wheels, center section, and exhaust wheel in that. This is what HARMON did with his turbo on the burple Sy. If you don't have a PTE housing, you can opt for one of his stainless steel housings (the same as was raffled away at Homecoming).

Call David Hall at 231-301-1171 or e-mail him at david@bullseyepower.com. Let him know qbnkiller sent you!

As for the VORTEC's, I don't know what I will be doing over the winter. I am obviously making lots of power. I will evaluate my choices and see where I want to be for next season. I think I want to stay in TOP STOCK for now, but who knows....maybe I'll build this DART block that's been on the shelf for a year now...
 

jpalmer

New member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Mis-shifting an automatic :roll: jk. If i were you, i would not even deal with a head swap of any sort. Where your at now is damn good. Bragging rights for sure. Work on shifting and getting it to the ground. The old adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." ;)
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Mis-shifting an automatic :roll: ...;)

No shit, good think he isn't driving a stick huh?


In al seriousness good job Alex you have done what few others have in syty world, many have tried though. We will forgive your inability to shift an automatic.
 

turbodig

Active member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

No shit, good think he isn't driving a stick huh?


In al seriousness good job Alex you have done what few others have in syty world, many have tried though. We will forgive your inability to shift an automatic.

I don't remember what shifter he had, but if he's shifting the stock one, I can understand the issue.

Ratchet shifter to the rescue!
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

yeah..give me shit! I have the B&M Hammer shifter - its a ratchet-style shifter, but I somehow found how to make it **** up! No worries! I am stopping by Rossler's place and getting the governor I need to stop that from being an issue any longer!

I may try to make it to the track one last time before they close them at the end of October...let's see if I can make that record pass....
 

autoaddictions

Active member
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

.let's see if I can make that record pass...

Not on my watch! Im working on some changes now. Im 75% done going to be interesting...
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

I love some shit-talking!

How long are your tracks out there open until Frank? Mine are closing at the end of October. When I get home from this trip, I will have a few days to get ready and hit the track (weather permitting) one last time. It seems that both our last outings have been less than we had anticipated, but we both have plans to getting out one more time this year! The question is will it be on VORTECs or L35's that the record is taken? How about a smaller turbo? You still planning om keeping the Ty in TOP STOCK?

Good luck!!
 
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Windedv6

Ty n 10s
Re: Test and tune - 10/16/10

Geeezzz guys...all the talk! Do I need to put a set of vortecs back on the AWD and come out to play. ;) I was running 10:60s in a heavier Ty years ago. Crank them bitches up and get it done!

Just having some fun with ya'll... I like what Alex as done with the e85. Always interesting to see what Frank is up to.

Winters coming...let them rip...fix em by spring...tune em in the summer ...let em rip in the fall...fix em in the winter...etc...etc...:tup:

John
 
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