Hammerhead's Theft Recovery Fund Raiser

For those of you just joining, read this: http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=95529

This thread is to track the progress of a fundraiser I put together for Fred (Hammerhead) and to thank the generous donators out there for their support. The fundraiser is to help him recover the money that he lost in a transaction with sonomagt288. It has been several months and no money has been received for his injectors.

A link to the fundraising page: http://www.gofundme.com/3bft3k

---Silver Level Donations---
1) **Special thanks to our first donator: PAUL ROTH for his generous $10.00 donation** Your generosity is very much appreciated :tup:
2) **Thank you very much to SPORT MACHINES for a $20.00 donation** and your continued involvement in the SyTy community :tup:

We are currently at 30% of our goal reached.
 
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Hi guys, i appreciate what you guys are doing but is not necessary. I really think it is great that the members on this forum look out for each other. By the way, my name is Fred not Frank
 

Jimmy

Banned
Re: Hammerhead's Theft Recovery Fund Raiser

If gaugeprower has already been proven to be a thief,is this just another scam for him to steal monies (again) ?

This thread should be locked and nobody should fall for this IMO.
 
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Jimmy I understand you're a little on edge but you can chill out I'm just raising monies to help Hammerhead.

Now with that said, at the end of day 1, $30.00 has been raised for Fred so far, which is far more than I expected there to be. If donations continue, the 100 dollar goal should be reached by the end of the week.

Fred, after all those fees get taken out by gofundme, which I noted in the other thread, something like 5% of every donation and then that other fee from their financial dept. (honestly little greedy thieves if you ask me) you'll most likely be getting $90 of that from the site. I'll withdraw the exact amount raised, send you a screenie of what the final total ended up to be, and send you a cashier's check/money order since you mentioned you don't have a PayPal.
 

leroy

Donating Member
Re: Hammerhead's Theft Recovery Fund Raiser

How about a fundraiser for me to repay the money you stole? Please respond gaugeprower.

Jim
 

MikeRenz

not stock
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paypal doesn't take 5% of regular purchases. Plus they have no fee transactions for donations/charity type things. This make 0 sense. Let's help out one forum member by wasting 10% of other people's money.

Gaugeprower, it would have taken you less time and less wasted money to just make Fred some stickers worth $100 and send them to him.

Also funny that you start a fund yet aren't willing to contribute yourself? Guess that's why you wouldn't think to just send him some decals to say 'sorry for your loss.'
 

QWERTYphoon

Motley Driver Award 2009
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This just doesn't make sense to me why a Dog House member is taking the time to help somebody over $70, when he owes $100. There are more than one victim over the years on this site. If anything this thread could be turned into a victum fund for anybody scammed over the years on this site. Gaugepower should clear his own name and worry about himself before taking steps to extract money from anybody else. Also, why is his iTrader rating 100%?
 

neildemo

Administrator
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This just doesn't make sense to me why a Dog House member is taking the time to help somebody over $70, when he owes $100. There are more than one victim over the years on this site. If anything this thread could be turned into a victum fund for anybody scammed over the years on this site. Gaugepower should clear his own name and worry about himself before taking steps to extract money from anybody else. Also, why is his iTrader rating 100%?

Exactly!
 

T-Bone

Active member
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Also funny that you start a fund yet aren't willing to contribute yourself?

I don't really have a dog in this fight (and don't desire one) but Mike, you are spot on!! One would think a person who begins a fund raiser would be the first to contribute and lead the way.

The last thing I want around a child molester is my child.
The last thing I want around a rapist is my wife.
The last thing I want around a thief is my money.

In time, trust might be established, but to spearhead this effort while a member is in the doghouse for theft is the equivalent of Jodi Arias suggesting people send her pocket knives in Prison for her to forward to refugees in Cambodia :dunno:.
 

Icarus-54

Donating Old Member
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I don't really have a dog in this fight (and don't desire one) but Mike, you are spot on!! One would think a person who begins a fund raiser would be the first to contribute and lead the way.

The last thing I want around a child molester is my child.
The last thing I want around a rapist is my wife.
The last thing I want around a thief is my money.

In time, trust might be established, but to spearhead this effort while a member is in the doghouse for theft is the equivalent of Jodi Arias suggesting people send her pocket knives in Prison for her to forward to refugees in Cambodia :dunno:.

Well put
 
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I dont agree with those fees either, its not even through paypal... gofundme's terms if you read them, is that they take 5% of every donation received, then on top of that when you go to withdraw when the goal is made, they have their own 3rd party financial company that pays you out, and they take a 30 cent fee plus an additional 2.9% **I NEVER mentioned gofundme using Paypal.**

The reason why I haven't donated is a simple one. The stupid company doesnt accept Papyal :squint: of ALL THINGS not to accept.This is a serious drawback of this service. It was actually brought to my attention by another board member (Baythan) who pm'ed me asking why gofundme didnt accept paypal, because he wanted to donate as well... So I was holding my 10 dollar donation (small but it was something at least) to add to the money order i would be sending him when the goal was either reached or when the donations died out and I just sent him what was raised for him. This isn't a hard concept to follow.

Now, all that aside... as for Leroy... did you miss all the commotion when I came back on the forum to fill my missed orders? I've had a few threads on this board from what I remember dedicated to hunting down everyone I owed decals to. These threads were on the front page for weeks as I was getting my ass handed to me by the whole forum so there's no way that a member who logged on during that month or so wouldn't have seen it. I asked everyone more than once, and PM'd those who I missed. I filled every single order... I remember specifically asking you either in that thread, pm, or both because your avatar sticks out in my mind. I never received a response from you, so I figured that was your way of telling me I got you, so I let it be and figured you'd contact me if it were still the case that I missed you. It was even mentioned by other board members that you were quiet which left the question open ended as to whether or not your order was filled or not. If I still owe you graphics, you're the last one on the list to make my orders complete. If that's the case, what did you order? Honestly I thought all this time it was Jimmy I owed graphics to and he was just refusing to tell me what I owed him so he could keep grabbing me at the neck every time I posted anywhere. Obviously that isn't the case.

Again, Leroy, if I missed you and you didn't get my memo's when I was filling my missed orders, I sincerely apologize, as soon as you get the chance, lets get in contact so I can ship out your order.
I want to get these in your hands asap so no one can ever tell me again that I owe anyone, and be done with this mess already.


Now, back on the original Topic... Fred, it's looking like your fundraisings are sitting at $30.00 at this moment in time, add my 10 in there that leaves you at 40. Hopefully by the end of id maybe next week that 70 will be reached so you can break even. I'll double check what that's going to take using their fees, off the top of my head im thinking that raising 70 on the gofund me, plus my 10 should have the payout on or slightly above 70 after the site takes their "fair" share. and I'll make sure as a precaution to screenshot you the amounts from the site so no one thinks im freaking running away with anything.
 

MikeRenz

not stock
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I dont agree with those fees either, its not even through paypal... gofundme's terms if you read them, is that they take 5% of every donation received, then on top of that when you go to withdraw when the goal is made, they have their own 3rd party financial company that pays you out, and they take a 30 cent fee plus an additional 2.9% **I NEVER mentioned gofundme using Paypal.**

so why would you sign up with them if you know the fees are stupid. This is why people don't trust charities or don't donate - all proceeds not going to the cause.

you never mentioned gofundme using paypal....neither did anyone else. I said paypal doesn't even charge that much....meaning.....you could just have set up a paypal account to accept donations and it would have taken less $ off the top.

you think you're doing the right thing and being some hero, all you're doing is wasting more money.

What exactly would you do if 50 people chipped in and the donations came to $500? Why did you set the goal to $100 if Fred is only out $70. Pretty sure Fred won't feel right profiting off his fellow boardmembers.
 
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so why would you sign up with them if you know the fees are stupid. This is why people don't trust charities or don't donate - all proceeds not going to the cause.

you never mentioned gofundme using paypal....neither did anyone else. I said paypal doesn't even charge that much....meaning.....you could just have set up a paypal account to accept donations and it would have taken less $ off the top.

you think you're doing the right thing and being some hero, all you're doing is wasting more money.

What exactly would you do if 50 people chipped in and the donations came to $500? Why did you set the goal to $100 if Fred is only out $70. Pretty sure Fred won't feel right profiting off his fellow boardmembers.

Well...to give an honest answer to your question... i kinda just signed up because I saw there was no registration fee or monthly fees associated with having the account. And read the fine print after, so ok I'll swallow that one my bad there.

And you're right, now that I've read into it, it wouldve been better to just go the paypal route, live and learn. Also, most people (myself include) use paypal online for money transfer and purchases and are more comfortable using that, so yes I'll agree, you have the better idea. I just ran with the idea a little too quickly. I dont think its fair either that some of the money goes to them, but, I understand that in their defense, theyre offering the world a convenient service to raise money and they have server costs and maintenance costs, they have to pay for that somehow...

The reason for setting that goal is to provide a ceiling to not go past 100, and to compensate for those fees I mentioned earlier that they were taking out. If it were 70 it would fall short (i now see that 100 is way overshot ill see if it can be adjusted) This fundraiser is also not targeted specifically for the board members, i mean of course it was mentioned here, but it was also publicly listed for anyone to donate if they felt inclined to the cause. The purpose and intention was to do something to help recover his losses, and i figured I had a good idea to help him out. I wouldve suggested donating straight to his paypal but he said in the first post that he didnt deal with paypal (which was his reasoning for shipping first and awaiting payment later) so this made sense. Of course all ideas come with their praise and their criticisms. There's always a better way to do something, but I didnt see anyone doing much else except writing posts to bash a guy that isnt even going to read them. I mean hey it feels good to get a word out, but that wouldn't help him get his injectors or his money back you know? So while some were helping him go the route of alternative contact, I went the route of trying to find a solution to recover his monetary loss in the event the contact wasnt successful (of which it hasnt been, other than reaching his wife correct?) If that ceiling was reached, and there was extra money, (which the donators would obviously know since its listed in huge unmissable numbers) it would be at his discretion what to do with it. Keep it and thank those who donated, put it back into the community by donating it through the link above on the top of the forum, donating it charity, etc. idk. All I know is that I wanted to put something together to do something to help him out, and I did. And I'm not sorry for that. Mike, not everyone knows the best way to go about something right away, but for me at least, I felt that doing something even if its proving to be half ass effective was better than doing nothing.

As for being a hero... look at that line through my name. The doghouse has no heroes. You and I both know that status is never going to be removed. I'm not trying to be a hero, I'm just trying to help someone out whom I've never met before who found himself stuck in crappy situation and I felt for him because I saw how I affected people when i made them feel that same way when I screwed up with their graphic orders.

In the end no matter much I get flamed for what I'm doing, I've still helped Fred recover 40 bucks so far (if you add my 10), and I'm proud of that. I'm at least making progress. I'm not saying its right that others should have to chip in when someone takes off on a deal, that isnt fair. But, I just wanted to give the idea a try. It obviously bothered him enough to start a thread about getting burned so its not like he could care less about his 70 bucks.

I tip my hat to Sportmachines bc I personally know they're on here all the time so they know all about how I screwed up and they still went ahead and donated knowing that i was the one taking charge of the page. Even Baythan, although his donation didn't make it in, he still pm'ed me looking for a solution to the site not accepting paypal. If they did I know he would've ponied up too. I already told you I'm adding 10 in...

Honestly you've been around here a long time. Way longer than i have, and youre a very highly respected member of this board, (much the opposite of what I can say for myself.) But I still at least just want to say...before you criticize me about what i'm doing based on my past mistakes.. Where's your donation? What are you doing to help? I understand you haven't been the cause of a problem like this on this board like I have, I get that... but all I've seen you doing on the forum (only this past week) is going around and posting smart ass responses to whatever it is I'm writing anywhere on the board. I already get that from Jimmy and he's better at it. This isnt the kind of behavior that I'd expect from someone whos up there with Captain Morgan with 15-16 thousand posts... let alone someone who's 10 years older than I am.

Look...all in all...At least I tried something. If it isnt the best idea..sorry. But its not the worst idea either at least.
Also, how long has it been since I've been doghoused and im still here typing away, adding insight to threads, posting writeups, dodging flame etc. If whoever owned these boards felt I was currently deserving of a permanent ban i easily wouldn't be here right now wouldn't I?

And, if a ban is going to be the case, at least wait until I get Leroy his order that he just contacted me about today, and Fred his donations.
 
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TNPhoon

1of28
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I can see both sides, but HammerHead already stated in this thread it's not necessary...And it sounds as if some other owners near Sonoma are attempting to assist him as well, so why is the GoFundMe link even still posted?

Okay...so there's $40 ($30 already done and the $10 that gauge comitted to).

How about just stop everything now (the donation link, rip her down), send the funds out to HammerHead, get the shit handled with Leroy and then we all call it a day?

Then we can all sit around at Nats and have a big drunken make-out session and everybody make up.
 
Re: Hammerhead's Theft Recovery Fund Raiser

I can see both sides, but HammerHead already stated in this thread it's not necessary...And it sounds as if some other owners near Sonoma are attempting to assist him as well, so why is the GoFundMe link even still posted?

Okay...so there's $40 ($30 already done and the $10 that gauge comitted to).

How about just stop everything now (the donation link, rip her down), send the funds out to HammerHead, get the shit handled with Leroy and then we all call it a day?

Then we can all sit around at Nats and have a big drunken make-out session and everybody make up.

I was going to suggest pulling the plug. I like this idea. I was just thinking Fred was just saying "you didnt have to but I appreciate that you did"

I'm going to take care of this momentarily. 40 bucks is 40 bucks. Something's better than nothing.
 

JAY

Donating Member
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I cant believe there is this much fuss over $70.
 

T-Bone

Active member
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As for being a hero... look at that line through my name. You and I both know that status is never going to be removed.

I have been observing your responses and even though at times I think you would have been justified in lashing out, you didn't. Sometimes you can never right a wrong but it appears you have tried. I tip my hat to you for doing something to assist another member. Keep your chip up.....I think in time the doghouse status will go away for you and if it doesn't (and your positive performance around here continues), I would be very disappointed with the level of maturity perceived to be at the moderator level. There is more to life than SyTy.net but it does add some spice :tup:
 
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Ok, it's all deactivated... here's the withdraw screenshot:

gfm.jpg

Gofundme jacked 3 bucks off you in fees, add my 10 in and that leaves you with a cashier check/m.o. for 37.05, ill just round it up to 40 bucks.

Fred, PM me your address, don't leave this money here i'm not keeping it.
 
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