Wide band o2 Which is better

[Slyclone]

I am finally looking into a wideband sensor. I will probably be dissassembling my truck complete once again for the 3rd time.

Revisions will be made on my Down pipe, I believe I will send it out to get coated at same time.

I notice Autometer offers 3 styles of wide bands- cheap-mid-expensive.

Cheap would be something like this- http://www.ebay.com/itm/air-fuel-ca...033?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a298e3541

Does that unit require a actual 02 sensor It just looks like 3 or 4 wires? Your dealing with some one who has no clue about these devices. At this point I am looking for either a basic one like that, to see if I can get by--- or should I up the buck to maby the middle grade or the higher $300 unit. I just dont know what the benefit would be of the $300 vs the $150. Of course I am shopping around and all. I am looking for the Pro Comp Ultra Lite gauge.

One is more precise with its reading?

Truck obviously has run like crap since I put motor in.And I feel like I screwed up some where along the line with all the issues I have been up against The truck died on me the other day I went to put some gas in the tank and it died out and left me stranded.

 

[atkonkler]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Plx wideband new model $200 on amazon and it doesn't require putting resistors to block out interference like the old Plx model. If you want more info pm me and ill help ya out.

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

I was gonna say the thing. PLX, less expensive and everything is included. Support the small guy.

 

[Logan]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

On the topic of wide band O2 sensors, what is the benefit? I understand that it allows for better tuning but for a rookie like me who is running a stock engine with an Ultimate Chip is this a mod I would benefit from? I want to get into the tuning aspect of these trucks but I trying to work all of the mechanical kinks out first and then move to that headache.

 

[Slyclone]

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Sure, Any help or direction would be great.

The truck ran like crap since I build engine and change everything around. I could not keep up with the little bells and whistles ( A/F gauge) and other sensors that could have been hindering everything. Seems like a real KEY component when your truck does not perform right.

Hoping something like this can help pin point or nail down the problem so I am not rebuilding the engine. Already needs a half dissassembly.

What it comes down to is No I do not think I can handle tuning my self. I am still trying to find the guy who I feel comfortable with who is going to do the right stuff, Not just charge me a flat rate of 500 and give me a B/S tune. I would like to be able to figure a way to monitor something or know something wont go wrong. Right now I dont know what the problem is but its getting out of hand ! This gauge may help. I have no way of "watching" my tune after the truck is dyno-d so I would not know what is going on after the tune other than the DATA log I can perform but I am still unsure about that.

 

[92 Ty 1173]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

On the topic of wide band O2 sensors, what is the benefit? I understand that it allows for better tuning but for a rookie like me who is running a stock engine with an Ultimate Chip is this a mod I would benefit from? I want to get into the tuning aspect of these trucks but I trying to work all of the mechanical kinks out first and then move to that headache.

I am currently running it in one of my trucks myself. I also have everything to do my own tuning so once I learn that I will do away with the Utimate. It won't hurt to invest in one now because on a higher setting you may be on the edge of hurting your engine. It is a key in taking preventive measures to keep your tuck alive. $200 now is alot cheaper than an engine.

 

[V8 Sonoma GT]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Plx wideband new model $200 on amazon and it doesn't require putting resistors to block out interference like the old Plx model. If you want more info pm me and ill help ya out.

i forgot about that resistor, could be why my gauge isnt working.

also plx has sales, you can get them for $180.00.

 

[InvisiBill]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

On the topic of wide band O2 sensors, what is the benefit? I understand that it allows for better tuning but for a rookie like me who is running a stock engine with an Ultimate Chip is this a mod I would benefit from? I want to get into the tuning aspect of these trucks but I trying to work all of the mechanical kinks out first and then move to that headache.

The stock O2 sensor is narrowband. It can only sense "lean" or "rich". When your air/fuel ratio is correct, the sensor simply bounces back and forth between the two readings a lot, since it's not actually lean or rich. When it crosses back and forth, you get high "cross-counts", which indicates a good ratio. That's the extent of what the stock O2 can do.

With a wideband O2, it will actually measure the A/F ratio and put out a corresponding voltage. You can tell if it's very rich, a little rich, right on, a little lean, or very lean based on the output value. It just provides a lot better information, so it makes it a lot easier to tune your engine.

To actually make use of a wideband in operation (as opposed to acting just as a separate monitoring tool), the chip needs to be programmed for it. It's not a drop-in replacement for the stock narrowband (though I remember at least some of them did have a narrowband output to work like the stock O2).

 

[Slyclone]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Ended up getting a autometer wideband. Costed me 170- new.

Looking over the engine bay whats the best route in the truck? I ended up finding a old existing hole and used that for a boost pressure signal for my gauge.. I am guessing I have to go as big as the end connector or is there a real easy way to de-pin the micro connections.

My though was to put a real nice heavy duty shrink tube sleeve over as much of the pre-fab harness and 02 connector as possible.

If anyone has a install tip or a place that I can catch real easy with out having to hog any holes out let me know. Rather know now than after.

Also I might just pull the engine and find out a easy way in past the fire wall. Not sure.

 

[Throws]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Ended up getting a autometer wideband. Costed me 170- new.

Looking over the engine bay whats the best route in the truck? I ended up finding a old existing hole and used that for a boost pressure signal for my gauge.. I am guessing I have to go as big as the end connector or is there a real easy way to de-pin the micro connections.

My though was to put a real nice heavy duty shrink tube sleeve over as much of the pre-fab harness and 02 connector as possible.

If anyone has a install tip or a place that I can catch real easy with out having to hog any holes out let me know. Rather know now than after.

Also I might just pull the engine and find out a easy way in past the fire wall. Not sure.

You can de-pin the connector *carefully*. I did this with mine, and placed a hole right next to the antenna cable. You can't see it, and it gives me great positioning in the glove box.

-P

 

[atkonkler]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Can you daisy chain with autometer? Plx you can put multiple boxs together and run them all off that single gauge. Just food for thought if u wanna keep the amount of gauges down in your rig!

 

[Jimmy]

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I think my sensor is VW and the sensor(not the reader ect) was like tree fiddy. $3.50

Something like that maybe $70 bux.

This $56 http://m.advanceautoparts.com/mt/sh...sch_18730616-p?zoneAssigned=1&un_jtt_redirect

 

[Mephisto]

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I'm a lil lost on the WB o2 and code 59 thing... I jumped the gun and bought an AEM uego before really looking into it... The PLX comes with the sensor module but doesn't look like it comes with a gauge. Do I NEED the sensor module that comes with the PLX to do code 59? Or can I use the Uego and be ok? It doesn't really go into specifics on the code 59 site, just says it's compatible with AEM but doesn't say if I need additional stuff. I'm still in my return window for the Uego, just wondering if I need to send that back and get the PLX to use code 59.

 

[atkonkler]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

Get Plx ! You can daisy chain later on with other Plx modules! Run one gauge instead of multiple ones.

 

[Slyclone]

Re: Wide band o2 Which is better

I am just running a dual pillar gauge pod. I have a boost gauge in the bottom, and plan on running the wideband up top. I ended up De-pinning the small connector last night and got distracted and some one messed all my stuff up. The only reason why I wanted to de pin was to get a nice heavy duty jacket on the wires..and have it be black and un-seen.

I wrote down all the connections. But should have snapped a photo of the location and order because I did not note which side the clip goes. There is a small clip on the connector and it locks in to the back of the gauge.

LOL anyone want to yank there autometer air fuel gauge out and kindly let me know the order of wires. I have here blue/green start me off on one side. just do not know what is what top/bottom... with the connector and clip. Instructions show the connector but its not that good, and other wires are not shown for heated o2.