Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
I posted as Trans Am WS6 42 in that thread. You and I seem to be on the same page with this
As for the dig racing vs roll racing, there is no "answer". There are some pretty strong feelings on both sides of the fence. I'm partial to the dig stance myself
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geg9113 said:
I posted as Trans Am WS6 42 in that thread. You and I seem to be on the same page with this
As for the dig racing vs roll racing, there is no "answer". There are some pretty strong feelings on both sides of the fence. I'm partial to the dig stance myself
Welcome to the board
- Matt
THEMADTYPH00N
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
When I see the NHRA start racing from a roll, then I'll think about it.
420 said:I posted as Trans Am WS6 42 in that thread. You and I seem to be on the same page with this
As for the dig racing vs roll racing, there is no "answer". There are some pretty strong feelings on both sides of the fence. I'm partial to the dig stance myself
Welcome to the board
- Matt
When I see the NHRA start racing from a roll, then I'll think about it.
Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
thanks, yea there really is no answer. I guess it really is all about the strong point of your car for the roll or dig runs. I also have an 87 GN that was built currently put back to stock and going to sell but I used to love dig runs with that. 67dbb,alky,3200 stall w/built trans, full suspension, and Drag Radials, the car would hook first on the street with hot tires but from a roll still was a brick so i wasn't too much of a fan from 60 rolls in it.
Trapper:
You had an 03-04 cobra? I daily drive my bolt on cobra on stock clutch and have put 18k miles on it since September with absolutely no problems whatsoever. The cobras are built extremely well to say the least. idk how many 10 second pump gas cars you can daily drive no problem on stock trans and bottom ends but the 03-04 cobras are one of the few.
it's funny you say that though, the only reason I bought my GN 3 years ago over a sy/ty is because of the reliability reason.
as for that race with the 500awhp sy and 620rwhp cobra, I could surely see the sy putting 10+ cars on him from a dig with street tires and a poor driver. Launching the 03-04s on stock irs is ridiculous especially with a TS on there.
Greg
420 said:I posted as Trans Am WS6 42 in that thread. You and I seem to be on the same page with this
As for the dig racing vs roll racing, there is no "answer". There are some pretty strong feelings on both sides of the fence. I'm partial to the dig stance myself
Welcome to the board
- Matt
thanks, yea there really is no answer. I guess it really is all about the strong point of your car for the roll or dig runs. I also have an 87 GN that was built currently put back to stock and going to sell but I used to love dig runs with that. 67dbb,alky,3200 stall w/built trans, full suspension, and Drag Radials, the car would hook first on the street with hot tires but from a roll still was a brick so i wasn't too much of a fan from 60 rolls in it.
Trapper:
You had an 03-04 cobra? I daily drive my bolt on cobra on stock clutch and have put 18k miles on it since September with absolutely no problems whatsoever. The cobras are built extremely well to say the least. idk how many 10 second pump gas cars you can daily drive no problem on stock trans and bottom ends but the 03-04 cobras are one of the few.
it's funny you say that though, the only reason I bought my GN 3 years ago over a sy/ty is because of the reliability reason.
as for that race with the 500awhp sy and 620rwhp cobra, I could surely see the sy putting 10+ cars on him from a dig with street tires and a poor driver. Launching the 03-04s on stock irs is ridiculous especially with a TS on there.
Greg
Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
that's like saying "hey, I'm not going to play Wiffleball with some buddies because the pros don't do it on TV." Its all in good fun, you can't compare an unprepped street to a sticky track. I hardly do dig runs anymore because the person next to you can easily get loose and into your lane, but from a highway roll odds of that are much more unlikely. I'll be down for Supernationals tomorrow, should be a good time, maybe they'll do a couple of roll runs for the fans!
THEMADTYPH00N said:
that's like saying "hey, I'm not going to play Wiffleball with some buddies because the pros don't do it on TV." Its all in good fun, you can't compare an unprepped street to a sticky track. I hardly do dig runs anymore because the person next to you can easily get loose and into your lane, but from a highway roll odds of that are much more unlikely. I'll be down for Supernationals tomorrow, should be a good time, maybe they'll do a couple of roll runs for the fans!
T-Bone
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
If the main goal is to test machine against machine, then a roll is appropriate BUT if the main goal is to see which driver has the skill to back up his talk about WHO is faster, than the race HAS to be from a dead stop. If the other guy can't produce from a dig, then he/she/it just needs to shut their trap.....plain and simple because a real race is a combination of reaction time, launch, traction, acceleration and shifting technique and a race from a roll only requires a dork to mash the gas and steer, which to same may be a BIG deal.
If the main goal is to test machine against machine, then a roll is appropriate BUT if the main goal is to see which driver has the skill to back up his talk about WHO is faster, than the race HAS to be from a dead stop. If the other guy can't produce from a dig, then he/she/it just needs to shut their trap.....plain and simple because a real race is a combination of reaction time, launch, traction, acceleration and shifting technique and a race from a roll only requires a dork to mash the gas and steer, which to same may be a BIG deal
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The Devils Own Chariot
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
Racing from a roll is like whacking off. Its not as good as the real thing.
Racing from a roll is like whacking off. Its not as good as the real thing.
LIL QIK
HELL YEA I GOT BOOST!
Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
Don't take this wrong T, or anyone else...lol.....but in my opinion...unless you've got Robert's, Ed's or Bully's kind of power, there's no real challenge to driving a Sy/Ty. You have to admit...it's pretty damn easy to take a race on the street. I'm sure a lot of people are going to take this wrong....so keep in mind it is just my opinion. But I truly miss having a car that you truly had to drive out of the hole. But I think it's natural for anyone to want to race there car from the point they know it shines. Granted I'm not the die hard NHRA fan that a lot of people on here are...but I do like all forms of racing. Whether it's from a dig, roll, autocross or what not. It's all part of competing against other cars/trucks. I guess I just believe that you should be able to compete at dig and roll. I don't hold it against anyone that wants to go from a roll.....except me if I happen to lose....lol. And let's not forget...that when you've got the power....racing from a roll is not always the easiest in 2wd either. My old Camaro would just go up in smoke from a roll. My brothers GN will go up in smoke at 60 on drag radials. I've seen several video's where Sy/Ty's have raced from a roll and done just fine. Anyway....as always...just my opinion.T-Bone said:a race from a roll only requires a dork to mash the gas and steer, which to same may be a BIG deal
the baPhoon
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
Or fat chicks!
The Devils Own Chariot
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
LOL wtf
the baFoon said:
LOL wtf
T-Bone
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
No offense taken :tup:. Even with the above mentioned, from a roll, their trucks would be easy to pilot. Where stuff gets squirly is in the first 100 feet or so. I don't know of a single "race" that starts from a roll??? Motorcross is at the rope, Horse racing is from the gate, Marathons are from the line, Nascar and Indy car are from the grid, NHRA is from the tree, etc. Even the race of life is from the womb. The real skill required in racing is getting moving....not necessarily moving and then moving faster, but, I understand your perspective and why some feel the same way.
LIL QIK said:
No offense taken :tup:. Even with the above mentioned, from a roll, their trucks would be easy to pilot. Where stuff gets squirly is in the first 100 feet or so. I don't know of a single "race" that starts from a roll??? Motorcross is at the rope, Horse racing is from the gate, Marathons are from the line, Nascar and Indy car are from the grid, NHRA is from the tree, etc. Even the race of life is from the womb
. The real skill required in racing is getting moving....not necessarily moving and then moving faster, but, I understand your perspective and why some feel the same way.
dgoodhue
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Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
I disagree with their is no challenge driving a SyTy unless you have low 9 sec hp. Yeah in stock form their isn't much of challenge, but I am sure at the 10 Sec range (like the Sy in the Cobra race), its not just build boost mash the pedla and go either. I have had cars that are more challenging to race and I do agree about enjoying the challenge. On the other hand, I built my truck to drive on the street, its not my fault if the person next to me built his car so it useless on the street at street legal speeds.
LIL QIK said:
I disagree with their is no challenge driving a SyTy unless you have low 9 sec hp. Yeah in stock form their isn't much of challenge, but I am sure at the 10 Sec range (like the Sy in the Cobra race), its not just build boost mash the pedla and go either. I have had cars that are more challenging to race and I do agree about enjoying the challenge. On the other hand, I built my truck to drive on the street, its not my fault if the person next to me built his car so it useless on the street at street legal speeds.
Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
i read the post on that site,not as one sided as looks. but I agree the SY would kill that cobra from a dig.My wifes pretty much stock TY takes my modded GN out from a dig and i'm running DRAG RADIALS,Alot of them guys don't know what a SY is thats for sure,i get the nice blazer or nice jimmy when we take the Ty somewhere.But then you get the guys that know what the heck it is and there like i remember driving one of these,or selling them.And they talk your ear off for an hour.My wife drives around looking for Mustangs just to put to lay the smack down off a light and the commen response after she takes em off the light is what's in that thing.Her response is just a lil turbo 6...
i read the post on that site,not as one sided as looks. but I agree the SY would kill that cobra from a dig.My wifes pretty much stock TY takes my modded GN out from a dig and i'm running DRAG RADIALS,Alot of them guys don't know what a SY is thats for sure,i get the nice blazer or nice jimmy when we take the Ty somewhere.But then you get the guys that know what the heck it is and there like i remember driving one of these,or selling them.And they talk your ear off for an hour.My wife drives around looking for Mustangs just to put to lay the smack down off a light and the commen response after she takes em off the light is what's in that thing.Her response is just a lil turbo 6...
Re: Syclone vs 620HP Mustang Cobra
well as owner of a lightly modded ty and a 600+ rwhp mustang I must say this- dont let your mouth write a check your butt cant cash. The stang owner thought big and lost big, hence the disbelief. Yes it is easier to race the sy or ty. great weight transfer, crazy torque, awd.etc.-but its up to the stang owner to do his homework. managing 500 horse on the street in a mustang is gonna be hairy until third gear at least in a stick. 620 plus is damn near useless in a 1/4 mile streetrace w/o full slicks and a built automatic. Of course from a roll would be desired from the higher horsepowered vehicles owner, now he doesnt have to manage as much.. I love em both. But I prefer rolls for less chance of breakage at the hit.
well as owner of a lightly modded ty and a 600+ rwhp mustang I must say this- dont let your mouth write a check your butt cant cash. The stang owner thought big and lost big, hence the disbelief. Yes it is easier to race the sy or ty. great weight transfer, crazy torque, awd.etc.-but its up to the stang owner to do his homework. managing 500 horse on the street in a mustang is gonna be hairy until third gear at least in a stick. 620 plus is damn near useless in a 1/4 mile streetrace w/o full slicks and a built automatic. Of course from a roll would be desired from the higher horsepowered vehicles owner, now he doesnt have to manage as much.. I love em both. But I prefer rolls for less chance of breakage at the hit.
