Ground Rat
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I was wondering if anyone had converted to a SC?
Supercharged SyTy?
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midnightbluS10
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Re: Supercharged SyTy?
I'm wondering if someone could fab up a bracket and things to use a procharger type unit with the stock W2A intercooler. Or better yet, 2 A2A units, one for the turbo, and one for the procharger. Have one on each side of the block or something.
I'm wondering if someone could fab up a bracket and things to use a procharger type unit with the stock W2A intercooler. Or better yet, 2 A2A units, one for the turbo, and one for the procharger. Have one on each side of the block or something.
QUICK STORM
B.A.M.F. BMW Tech
Re: Supercharged SyTy?
it would also freak out the stock computer
it would also freak out the stock computer
LandryPoole
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I don't understand how it could be of any benefit? If a person wants more power, just add a bigger turbo. I mean, the turbo's already make more psi than can be used, so again, I don't see the benefit. Centrifigal S/C's only make boost with rpm, which is in no way as good as a turbo, and roots blowers make max boost all the time therefore taking away economy to speak of, and screw type blowers are pretty much on the same lines as a roots. If I'm inaccurate, then someone please set me strait.
I don't understand how it could be of any benefit? If a person wants more power, just add a bigger turbo. I mean, the turbo's already make more psi than can be used, so again, I don't see the benefit. Centrifigal S/C's only make boost with rpm, which is in no way as good as a turbo, and roots blowers make max boost all the time therefore taking away economy to speak of, and screw type blowers are pretty much on the same lines as a roots. If I'm inaccurate, then someone please set me strait.
93TyphoonPacetruck
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I can see why, they use the S/C for the low end, and the turbos for the high end. That is exactly what the new VW's are using. Looks pretty simple on paper, there is a bypass so after the engine gets out of the low end, and the turbo is spooled up, it bypasses the S/C and feeds directly from the turbo. Looks pretty neat IMO. But for our trucks, I think you are totally right, if not just for complexity issues. I do like T-56's engine though :tup:
LandryPoole said:
I can see why, they use the S/C for the low end, and the turbos for the high end. That is exactly what the new VW's are using. Looks pretty simple on paper, there is a bypass so after the engine gets out of the low end, and the turbo is spooled up, it bypasses the S/C and feeds directly from the turbo. Looks pretty neat IMO. But for our trucks, I think you are totally right, if not just for complexity issues. I do like T-56's engine though :tup:
HighPerformanceTrucks
Lift & Shift Specialist
Re: Supercharged SyTy?
The infamous group B Lancia Delta Integrale was turbo/supercharged back in the 80's. Bad ass car still!
The infamous group B Lancia Delta Integrale was turbo/supercharged back in the 80's. Bad ass car still!
Robert Lone
MUTANT
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I see how it is now!!! I go out on a mission and you girls talk about me behind my back!!!:rant:
Yeah, the S/C on mine was a bad idea implimented to fix a worse problem originally. The first owner of my truck slapped some off the wall huge turbo on it that was trimmed for a big truck and ran into tons of turbo lag. This was compounded by the manual transmission. The blower helped the problem but was still a bad idea IMHO. However, it looks really cool sticking up out of the hood.:tup:
I've grown attatched to the thing and have decided to work around the S/C since I'm not looking for numbers at the track. It's going to be a daily driver.
B4 you throw a S/C at a SyTy, think long and hard about it since you will probably slow the truck down when you put it on unless it's done by a guru who knows a Helluva lot more than I do.:2cents:
I see how it is now!!! I go out on a mission and you girls talk about me behind my back!!!:rant:
Yeah, the S/C on mine was a bad idea implimented to fix a worse problem originally. The first owner of my truck slapped some off the wall huge turbo on it that was trimmed for a big truck and ran into tons of turbo lag. This was compounded by the manual transmission. The blower helped the problem but was still a bad idea IMHO. However, it looks really cool sticking up out of the hood.:tup:
I've grown attatched to the thing and have decided to work around the S/C since I'm not looking for numbers at the track. It's going to be a daily driver.
B4 you throw a S/C at a SyTy, think long and hard about it since you will probably slow the truck down when you put it on unless it's done by a guru who knows a Helluva lot more than I do.:2cents:
93TyphoonPacetruck
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Check this out. Looks pretty cool. http://usautonews.auto123.com/en/info/autonews/index,view.spy?artid=48117
Check this out. Looks pretty cool. http://usautonews.auto123.com/en/info/autonews/index,view.spy?artid=48117
Robert Lone
MUTANT
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36 lbs of boost and 48 mpg!!!:shocked!:
That's impressive.
36 lbs of boost and 48 mpg!!!:shocked!:
That's impressive.
Ground Rat
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T-56, I like your mutant, lol.
If I was going to SC a sy, I would use a custom twin screw and get rid of the turbo. Not that I'm concerned about mileage, but you can get excellent milage out of supercharged engines. Look at some of Chuck Mallet's corvettes, they are getting over 30mpg.
T-56, I like your mutant, lol.
If I was going to SC a sy, I would use a custom twin screw and get rid of the turbo. Not that I'm concerned about mileage, but you can get excellent milage out of supercharged engines. Look at some of Chuck Mallet's corvettes, they are getting over 30mpg.
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Robert Lone
MUTANT
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Here's some apart shots in case you were wondering...
Here's some apart shots in case you were wondering...
Wikid 1
200+ lbs of puppy!
Re: Supercharged SyTy?
wow, that looks like hell to work on lol
adding a turbo in front of a S/C simply creats more boost, it's like staging turbo's, since they don't make PSI, they simply multiply the avaliable air, since normal baro is about 14.7 psi, if the nominal pressure increse of a said turbo is 1.3, you'd end up with 19.11 PSIG in the manifold, however if you series the turbo's, the first pushing 19.11 psig into the intake of the second, the second will be putting out 24.85 PSIG into the manifold. This is how pulling tractors/desiels push 100+ PSIG into there motors! :thumbsup:
once the mainfold PSIG is up on T56's truck, the turbo basicly shuts off and it runs off of the blower i'd imagine, i've never seen it nor do i know fully how it works but it does look sick :lol:
wow, that looks like hell to work on lol
adding a turbo in front of a S/C simply creats more boost, it's like staging turbo's, since they don't make PSI, they simply multiply the avaliable air, since normal baro is about 14.7 psi, if the nominal pressure increse of a said turbo is 1.3, you'd end up with 19.11 PSIG in the manifold, however if you series the turbo's, the first pushing 19.11 psig into the intake of the second, the second will be putting out 24.85 PSIG into the manifold. This is how pulling tractors/desiels push 100+ PSIG into there motors! :thumbsup:
once the mainfold PSIG is up on T56's truck, the turbo basicly shuts off and it runs off of the blower i'd imagine, i've never seen it nor do i know fully how it works but it does look sick :lol: