Oil change

Typhoon #2131

Typhoon #2131

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So what do you guy's think. I have 652 miles on my fresh motor should I change the oil and get the SAE30W and all the assemble lube out of it or should I wait till it gets closer to a 1000miles? We are thinking about taking it on a road trip to the beach and wondering if I should change it first. If we go it would be about a 250 mile round trip.
 
sharkbait

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i would change it. it wont hurt. its already broken in. just don't use synthetic yet. my .2
 
sharkbait

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for the summer id go with a thicker weight. but someone with more turbo knowledge step in.
 
Typhoon #2131

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sharkbait said:
for the summer id go with a thicker weight. but someone with more turbo knowledge step in.
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Brassmonkey

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Typhoon #2131 said:
Ok. Yeah I'm not a big fan of synthetic. Probably just use a good 10w30 or 20w50? I like Castrol.
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What does your current oil look like, is it black, dirty and gritting already? If not, IMO it will be fine for another 250 more miles. What is your oil pressure like? If you just feel more comfortable though, change it.

Are you saying you aren't going to use synthetic at all in your turbo motor?
 
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Typhoon #2131 said:
So what do you guy's think. I have 652 miles on my fresh motor should I change the oil and get the SAE30W and all the assemble lube out of it
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I changed the oil on mine after the first 25 miles to get rid of the assembly lube and possible metal shavings but continued to use dino oil until 1000 miles.
 
Typhoon #2131

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Brassmonkey said:
What does your current oil look like, is it black, dirty and gritting already? If not, IMO it will be fine for another 250 more miles. What is your oil pressure like? If you just feel more comfortable though, change it.

Are you saying you aren't going to use synthetic at all in your turbo motor?
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I never used synthetic before. The oil looks like new still. the only thing thats bothering me is its getting some lifter noise and I dont know why. Its reaL bad when cold. Oil psi is about 55 to 60 going down the road.
 
Typhoon #2131

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DaveP said:
Is this noise on start-up, or while warming up? If while warming up, it may not be "lifter" noise. Any unusual noises at any time should be investigated. Especially on a newly in-service engine, and even more so before a long trip where a breakdown will be expensive and inconvenient.

Your noise is probably not oil related. Figure it out before you take it on an out-of-area trip.
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Its on warm up and then once its warm its fine. Its all new however I'm not sure what brand the builder put in. I had a very well known guy that builds alot of race motors in the area build it infact he built the motor in my race car and we are coming up on 5 years since the motor has been out. Maybe they just need adjusting?
 
Typhoon #2131

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DaveP said:
Has he heard it? That's the place to begin. Get it in to him for his attention. If your a repeat customer, and he's a reputable builder in the area, it's in his interest to make it right. And he probably will.

It only has 250 miles on it. It's still his baby at this point. Keep him in the loop. Give him the opportunity to fix it before it becomes a bigger problem. That's what I ask and expect my clients to do on engines I build for their boats. If they hear or see something unusual, please let me know ASAP so I can advise them or take care of it.
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Yeah I think I will give him a call and see if I can get it to him this next week. He wanted me to bring it back and have him dyno tune it anyway after I got it in and running.
 
SY-1193

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DaveP said:
WHAT????

Millions of heavy duty over the road diesel trucks, locomotives, marine vessels, and off road mining and construction equipment run millions and millions of miles and hours on Dino oil every year. (Virtually all diesel engines are turbocharged). Many go 10's of thousands of miles or hours between changes as well. And they don't run "Synthetic" oil. Reliability is everything to the owners of these engines. If turbos were failing because of running non-synthetic oil, they would change, and we would know about it.

And WTF is "Synthetic" oil anyway? Research it. I have. It comes from the same crude oil that Dino oil comes from, but originally (origional Mobile 1) was refined from Base IV & V stocks. After Mobile lost the law suit against Castrol (which was using Base III stocks, and calling it "Synthetic"), all mfgs reverted to using Base III (cheaper) stocks and calling it "Synthetic". Including Mobile. "Synthetic" oil IS 'regular' oil. Just costs more. Mobile 1 used to be better, but now it's just "motor oil".

It's the additive package in the oil that prevents wear, foaming, and coking that affects turbo life. Not the description on the container the oil comes out of.

Your blanket statement that "turbo cars & truck must use Synthetic oil for turbo life" is BS. More accurately: Turbocharged engines must use an oil suitable for turbocharged engines.
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Amen Brother. The Mobil 1 of yesteryear was definately a different oil. It was good for 50,000. miles. Not todays Mobil 1.
 
SY-1193

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What lifters where used in your rebuild? If they are Comp 875's they will produce a little bit more noise than stock lifters. This may not be your issue but it comes to mind from what you said so far. Could be many things. Tell us some more about your build.

Tyhoon #2131 said:
all you did was a chip and got into the 12's?
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As far as the question you have about my truck. The chip was only the starting point. Months and months of tuning and tweeking of everything is what produced my times. I ran that time with stock exhaust and the stock cat and downpipe. I did port match the turbo to the exhaust manifold (one of the best mods to a stock turbo) along with many other tweeks. Look into this forum using the Search feature enough and it will reward you. You don't always need a bunch of money or modified parts to go fast. If everything is working as it should these are very fast trucks. Almost any truck here that is fast is because someone took the time to tune it properly to the parts they have. Throwing a bunch of parts on one of these without the proper tuning is either going to result in a very slow truck or worse a blown engine.
 
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