Master Power Turbo????

[ty1435_4.3]

I have been told by a few shops that Iv'e asked that if I want to upgrade my turbo. I was told a t3/t4 p trim .83 exhaust with a 60-1 front. they all say go with a Masterpower turbo. Havent heard much about them but they have used them on big horsepower engines and they say they kick ass? They look good but I would much really like to go with a Garrett. But I dont have deep pockets.So I am seriously thinking of doing it. I have gotten a deal from Dynamic Turbo in Miami for like $1700.00 that includes Turbo, wastegate,and BOV and making a 2 piece DP. Just need some input on bolting a t3/t4 on my manifolds and do I have to any Mods to anything. TIA

 

[Drac0nic]

won't work, the stocker turbo's a Mitsu flange and downpipe versus a T3 flange, you'll need to rework your exhaust for the hybrid, and in my book the T3 turbine's probably gonna choke your top end off in the long run. Another Mitsu turbo like a 20G is probably a better choice with a new TC.

 

[ty1435_4.3]

I have taken my turbo and matched at T3 gasket to it. and it fit perfect. and there is a guy running a T3/T4 combo on a TY and it is working just fine he is turning like 700hp on the set up. I'm really just curious if I have to cut or grind around the A/C compressor bracket. the Exhaust side is going to be a .84 from what ive seen thats pretty big.

 

[BigAl...]

The flange on the exhaust manifold is the same as a T3. The 60-1P is a nice combo and should make some nice power as far as someone making 700hp on a t3 setup in a syty :drinking: UHHHH Ok whatever, what kind of t3 is it comp/exh wheel?

BigAl...

 

[ty1435_4.3]

the exhaust side is a .89

 

[MotorMouth]

I have a similar set up on my Ty just a hair smaller. The turbo is a Garrett T3/T4 with a .60 a/r compressor housing and 57 trim wheel (flows about 750 cfm). The turbine side is an .63 a/r with a stage three turbine wheel. It by no means is a big turbo but is a hell of alot better than the stocker. With stock boost it felt (I say felt b/c the motor spun 2 main bearings b4 I could get alot of miles on it) much stronger on the top end than the 17c and spools fairly quick. I think that I have a little more than 1,000.00 into the whole thing with turbo, wastegate, mild steel down pipe, misc. parts and exhaust. But I did all the fab work my self.

What I can say is that the a/c bracket is going to create a problem. I did not take the time to remove any material to get it to fit I just removed the whole thing, a/c, bracket and the whole nine yards.

That 60-1 wheel should make some decent power though. Might have a bit more lag with the .83 ex. housing though.

I did what I did turbo wise b/c I just like to learn and kind of stray from the norm.

Good luck with it!

Brian

 

[ty1435_4.3]

so should i go with the longer pte exhaust housing ? [/img]

 

[MotorMouth]

Obviously the PTE housing clears the a/c bracket but I don't have a clue if the P-trim wheel will fit in the housing. Mike Lee should be able to answer that.

Brian

 

[nick041881]

you must be talking to a rice boy shop if they think big horsepower can be made with a t3/t4......

 

[ty1435_4.3]

But isnt there a TY with like 975 hp running a T3/T4 set up? I know he has NOS but still..... I just dont want to weld on to my manifold to put a T4 flange.

 

[Drac0nic]

he may have had a PAIR of T3/T4s, something I've been tempted to try, but no way in #*%) I'm building that kinda motor, it'd break what little bank I've got and I'd never get it done. =) Goin with a single T04, probably a holset off a Cummins Turbodiesel (give results if/when I get it done) Then again I'm sorta shying away from Holsets as their maps aren't easy to find on the I-net.

 

[ty1435_4.3]

Nope Single turbo. It was in a truck mag I had It was a white one with a tail on the roof

 

[elipsekid]

Nope Single turbo. It was in a truck mag I had It was a white one with a tail on the roof

your talkin about tom dowds truck it had a t3/t4 hybrid but alot more work than just a turbo if im correct?

 

[jwaller]

here's the biggest hybrid I've seen. and I own it
T76-Qtrim with a mitsu 20g turbine housing.


many more pics can be seen on my site here


http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/jwaller_T-7620ghybrid

 

[ty1435_4.3]

what is involved in a conversion like that I have an extra turbo (torn down) and would like to do somthing like that. My question is is it more cost effective to make this hybrid or just go and get a T3/T4. TIA

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Master Power Turbo????

I was told a t3/t4 p trim .83 exhaust with a 60-1 front. they all say go with a Masterpower turbo. Havent heard much about them but they have used them on big horsepower engines and they say they kick ass? They look good but I would much really like to go with a Garrett. But I dont have deep pockets.So I am seriously thinking of doing it. I have gotten a deal from Dynamic Turbo in Miami for like $1700.00 that includes Turbo, wastegate,and BOV and making a 2 piece DP. Just need some input on bolting a t3/t4 on my manifolds and do I have to any Mods to anything. TIA

I don't know exactly what you performance goals are, but you mentioned you don't have deep pockets. Are you doing a Torque Converter and bigger Injectors? Do you have a built short block? If you just want bigger turbo (but still mild enough to bolt on to a shock short block) why don't you look into one PTE's kit or Racen Proven Motors Turbo kits. They will fit properly, cost slightly less, and you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

 

[jwaller]

what is involved in a conversion like that I have an extra turbo (torn down) and would like to do somthing like that. My question is is it more cost effective to make this hybrid or just go and get a T3/T4. TIA

it is probably easier for you to pbuy thge whole pte kit or one from RPM. BUT it's definalty cheaper to mod a stock turbo. but anything you do requires a TC change and you begin to spend time and mroe money.

a stock turbo convtered to a 60-1 is about $600. compared to way over 1k for the other kits out there.

it all depends on your goals. make them and stick to them. it will save you months of down time and thousands of dollars.

 

[ty1435_4.3]

Well I have done my engine. .030 over trw forged pistons. 4 bolt conversion total seal rings. eagle rods, 422 cam, just got my 50lbers and my chip upgrade from Mike Lee, (thanks again Mike) and I have a 9/11 with a 2800 stall. I know I will have to go higher stall but it will be cheaper to get a converter than get another turbo later to match a converter.I have pretty much figured out that its going to be a full to4 p trim with an .84 exhaust and a t70 comp side. I am just worried about the clearance with the radiator and the A/C bracket. has anyone donr this with out the PTE housing and kept thier A/C???? TIA

 

[jwaller]

yup. I have a T70 Q trim at the house now with AC on a customers truck. he has kb headers and a .96 exhaust housing. at the worst you'll have to make a 1/2" spacer between the turbo and manifold.

 

[AlaskaTy]

what's the difference between a T3, T4, T3/T4 hybrid, and PTE? I'm not looking for anything in depth, just wondering if it's housing size, how it mounts up to the dp/exhaust manifold or whatnot. I always hear the T talk when reading about DSMs, just curious how they compare to the PTE series turbos. Thanks.