Intake manifold for Syclone/Typhoon

[Fairclough]

Re: Intake manifold for Syclone/Typhoon

I'm all about spending money on intakes... I have 2 spare superram intakes sitting around for my collection of TPI parts.

If this includes the upper and lower intake, I would possibly be interested... Is it going to be side facing or forward? Is it going to fit all the stock parts and A/C? Stock fuel rail going to mount to it?

It would be upper and lower complete!
Forward facing
Fit 23* heads, we talked about leaving extra material, so you could port to fit!
I know this would not be for everyone, I don't design parts with everyone in mind, I usually go for max horsepower! with that said, that is why I am asking for input!
The only thing I really care about is matching the intake to the cam and heads that are readily available, so we don't have mis-matched parts (good head, good cam, and crap intake) and affect the powerband.

 

[Fairclough]

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Here is one attempt at a better intake as well

I want! that is a nice setup, but it would be hard to replicate hundreds, or even a thousand times!
Do you know the inlet runner area in square inches!

 

[Fairclough]

Re: Intake manifold for Syclone/Typhoon

http://www.performancebyie.com/
here is a link to Integrated Engineering.

 

[SY2455]

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I can tell a lot of the people on here don't get out much! :rotf:

It's not that, Some of us have been around here so much, that now days we find it hard to locate the doorknob to go outside. However we can still find the garage :tup:.

 

[e95 Ty]

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Truth be told, ported stock intake manifolds are capable of making more power than the stock blocks can handle, even 4bolt and filled.

There are so many other issues these engines have that need to be addressed before even thinking about changing to a different style intake, but If it were me that was doing this, I think your best shot at getting interest would be to design the intakes for Vortec heads as that is what the majority of guys that want to go fast with the stock block switch to first..The Big hp Bowtie builds are almost always one off builds because of all the different heads used, so It could be difficult to get the needed interest from this group as well. Most of those guys (myself included) will most likely go with a custom intake built specifically for that engine, like a Hogan sheet metal.

With all that said, I like the idea and excitement you share for these special trucks. I will watch this thread closely. Maybe I don't know what im talking about..:dunno:

 

[Throws]

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[...]Maybe I don't know what im talking about..:dunno:

I respectfully disagree.

-P

 

[Aeroking]

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I want! that is a nice setup, but it would be hard to replicate hundreds, or even a thousand times!
Do you know the inlet runner area in square inches!

thousand? if you can get it under $1000, you'd be lucky to sell 10 in this crowd. It's definitely not the LS crowd. Most people on this site want a 100% bolt-on kit, down to the bolts and gaskets.

Also with a long runner intake like the hi-ram you will have hood clearance problems. You will need an air-to-air, different radiator/fan, fuel rails, thermostat, and brackets.

I wish you the best.

 

[Static]

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I think your best shot at getting interest would be to design the intakes for Vortec heads as that is what the majority of guys that want to go fast with the stock block switch to first.

x2 on this.

currently there's 2 options for running Vortec heads:

1. Weld and machine the stock lower intake and drill,tap and plug the heads for the old pattern. This is probably the lowest cost option

2. Edelbrock 2114, weld the bungs in for the injectors and then deal with the throttle body part of it. Intake is $230 alone


So if you made a complete upper and lower intake that would bolt on to Vortec heads without a bunch of fuss or fabrication then it might be a viable option even if it was at a higher cost :2cents:

 

[RealFastV6]

Yeah dude I don't know what to tell you. This ain't the market you're looking for. Yes the stock intake sucks, and for the few people actually motivated to go through the hassle of swapping to a fwd facing intake, the existing options are probably enough.

With that said if you seriously come to market with a good intake like that for less than 1k, I promise I'll have the guy that changes my oil consider installing it for me.

 

[dgoodhue]

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Truth be told, ported stock intake manifolds are capable of making more power than the stock blocks can handle, even 4bolt and filled.

This and a modified eldlebrock 2114 intake and elbow for virtec heads which achieves somehing similair is already available. I wouldn't be surprised if your 50hp estimation is correct.

 

[0966Sy]

That's why I posted, to see if their is any interest, I can tell a lot of the people on here don't get out much! :rotf:

I can't leave anything alone, and I love optimizing my setup, if there is no interest, I'll do a sheet metal intake, I just thought with how many V6 trucks are on the road, we could all benefit, from a proper cast aluminum intake!

I have an idea, why don't you build it, install it, test it and then prove to everyone why it's worth $1,000. Then maybe you will have a legitimate discussion here before people start investing money into something that has no excuse to invest $1. Even at $500 your going to have a serious problem proving HP gains per $1.

 

[Fairclough]

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I have an idea, why don't you build it, install it, test it and then prove to everyone why it's worth $1,000. Then maybe you will have a legitimate discussion here before people start investing money into something that has no excuse to invest $1. Even at $500 your going to have a serious problem proving HP gains per $1.

I have not asked for any money!
when you cast something, you have to pay for tooling, setup, design, and testing.
This will cost around 100k atleast, that's why I'm asking to see if there is interest!
You want to build as many as possible, to bring the cost per part down.

 

[Fairclough]

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I can already tell this is not the right market, I thought I would give it a try, but I can find other projects to spend my money on! Thanks for the input!

 

[Throws]

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I can already tell this is not the right market, I thought I would give it a try, but I can find other projects to spend my money on! Thanks for the input!

Might I suggest a carbon fiber intake? Those things could sell like hotcakes.

-P

 

[Adam#0213]

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Might I suggest a carbon fiber intake? Those things could sell like hotcakes.

-P

:rotf: the last sentence was funny!

 

[Captain Morgan]

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I have not asked for any money!
when you cast something, you have to pay for tooling, setup, design, and testing.
This will cost around 100k atleast, that's why I'm asking to see if there is interest!
You want to build as many as possible, to bring the cost per part down.

I can already tell this is not the right market, I thought I would give it a try, but I can find other projects to spend my money on! Thanks for the input!

just my :2cents:, but yes there simply isn't enough of a market to make this anywhere near practical financially. I hate saying "never", but it would be a task just to get 10 people to commit @ $1000 even if you had a working prototype and put out some decent numbers.

But if you did get 10, you will never get the other 90 and that might just be breaking even based on your figures.

There were only about 7600 trucks ever built, nobody knows how many still exist, but there are a good number that have been wrecked, parted, crushed, etc. There are many that are low mileage originals or just stock drivers. So on and so on and so on.... what it boils down to is there is only a small handful of owners who would even see the need for an item like this.

It's unfortunate, but that's why a lot of the "big name" companies are no longer producing parts for these truck or even in existence anymore.

 

[It's just a six]

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Instead of making a different intake manifold, we need the divider plate made into production, so all cylinders get the same amount of air.

I started to get some guys into doing it but it never happened, still waiting on Mikes divider plate to happen.:tup:

 

[dgoodhue]

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Instead of making a different intake manifold, we need the divider plate made into production, so all cylinders get the same amount of air.

I started to get some guys into doing it but it never happened, still waiting on Mikes divider plate to happen.:tup:

I would like to see an air distribution plate as well.

 

[Fairclough]

Re: Intake manifold for Syclone/Typhoon

Send me some specs for the distribution plate. 8015182315, I also have access to a laser cutter, plasma, and water jet.

 

[canadian]

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If you want to sell tons of parts you'd have to marked to the regular S10 crowd. You'll never make your money back on $100k tooling parts selling to SyTy owners. Build a system that will let S10 owners turbocharge their trucks and you might have something.