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[freaksafe]

Hey guys so i have some questions about putting a turbo 4.3 in the 4x4 i'm buying.
1. would you guys suggest buying an already assembled sy/ty motor? and just dropping it in. If so how much do those go for ?
2. secondly would it be better to buy all the stock sy/ty turbo motor parts and put them on the 4.3 block i have?

I'm trying to decide which would be the best route to get to the end result. A stock or a little bit better than stock sy/ty motor in a 1991 4x4 gmc jimmy 2 door.

 

[Nova67ss]

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Use an already build engine with turbo, like a stock Sy/Ty engine or better.

Its best "bang" for the buck in long terms.

 

[yar]

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What city and state are you in ?

 

[jimmyz79]

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Don't bother.

I wanted to do the exact same thing to my S-Blazer many years ago, it became way too costly.

If you want grunt for your 4X4, put in a small block.

 

[socal]

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i say sb or lsx is the best bang for your buck

 

[freaksafe]

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I live in st Louis and of you read my intro I am putting a small block in my 2wd and these are both dailys so I want just a little more than stock. So I should start with a used syty engine. And what do those go for now a days?

 

[Daryl H]

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If you want to have a Typhoon why not buy a Typhoon?
Good luck with buying a SyTy engine, intake and exhaust manifolds, turbo, down pipe, injectors, ecm, torque converter, map sensor, wiring harness and the sticker that says :
"DAMN, I should have just bought a Typhoon."

 

[i8av8]

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"DAMN, I should have just bought a Typhoon."

that's funny right there! :rotf:

 

[MRS HARMON]

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4,000 to 5,000 for a runner. It will be under the hood of a rough, but mostly complete 1992 Typhoon. You can save on shipping by driving it home. After selling the most desirable cladding pieces and bumpers, you will be in the drive-train about 2,000 to 3,000. But you will have everything you need for your project. Wiring, brackets, ECM, lots of stuff is needed for this swap. Best to buy a complete Ty, and sell off what isn't used. A lot less frustrating. You won't be the first to do this either.

You should also budget an additional 3-4K for an engine rebuild after you blow it up within the first month or two. That's the trend around here with these lately. Peeps come in all the time now wondering why it blew sky-high. These are not GN's or Supras. They are finniky, fussy, POS engines that require a TON of knowledge and dedication to make run properly, and to keep them running at all. The guys that can do it have owned them for decades. Noobs to SyTy have great difficulty.

My guess is this is just another pipe-dream. This project will never happen. Especially after you figure out what all is really needed in parts, time, and money to get it done. Have you ever looked under the hood of a Typhoon? There's a lot of chit under there. Buying a complete ready to drive Typhoon, and keeping it as a Ty makes more sense than a 2WD turbo s-series.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but you have no idea what you're getting into here. Don't waste your money by even starting it.

Very well said Dave, having sytys is a pain in the first place, "building" a clone would just add to the headaches:tup:

 

[freaksafe]

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My guess is this is just another pipe-dream. This project will never happen. Especially after you figure out what all is really needed in parts, time, and money to get it done. Have you ever looked under the hood of a Typhoon? There's a lot of chit under there. Buying a complete ready to drive Typhoon, and keeping it as a Ty makes more sense than a 2WD turbo s-series.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but you have no idea what you're getting into here. Don't waste your money by even starting it.

I don't want to own a typhoon right now and I'm not putting it in a 2wd. Look dude if you don't support my idea thats cool and just give me facts why. I get that. But don't sit behind your computer and insult because you think i know nothing. You might as well have been calling me boy or kid throughout your speech. so back to the topic. (btw i will not argue with you in this thread pm if you have a response)

sorry to everyone else for my rant.

So even if i have the experience and knowlegde to put this motor into my jimmy you guys still think its a bad idea? why?

kind of an off topic question. what kind of mpg does a typhoon get stock?

 

[cloneman315]

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sytys are so cheap now just buy one,

 

[freaksafe]

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Not trying to clone a typhoon just wanna use the motor. I'm not gonna run it in 4 hi all the time because i don't need it to be. This will be a daily driver i just want something that will run strong for a long time. I never at any point said it was gonna be a walk in the park.

 

[turbodig]

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The folks here are telling you what they're telling you out of experience.

There is so much work, wiring, drivetrain, and incidental stuff involved, that it would be cheaper/easier to buy the Typhoon. Especially with what the going market prices are now.

This has been attempted many dozens of times, with most attempts resulting in the sale of a partially completed vehicle and a lot of cash burned. The ones that did finish, are the ones saying "I should have just bought the Typhoon".

If you're up for trying it, remember, you were warned.

 

[freaksafe]

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ok. exactly what is so hard about this motor swap? Give me specifics I have done motor swaps before what makes this one the hardest thing ever?
I don't quite understand why this one is so hard.

 

[REVEREND HARMON]

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Not trying to clone a typhoon just wanna use the motor. I'm not gonna run it in 4 hi all the time because i don't need it to be. This will be a daily driver i just want something that will run strong for a long time. I never at any point said it was gonna be a walk in the park.

You need to stop where you are at with your idea. You allready quoted the most important phrase." This will be a daily driver i just want something that will run strong for a long time."

These motors stock will not run for a long time. It WILL blow up and leave you stranded. It takes alot of search's on here and alot of post reading to grab the concept of just how finiky these motors are.

Dont expect to drop it in and drive it 100k miles.....you will be lucky to get 40k out of it...granted you baby it.

Do another small block drop in....much more reliable and last a long time:tup:

 

[turbodig]

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ok. exactly what is so hard about this motor swap? Give me specifics I have done motor swaps before what makes this one the hardest thing ever?
I don't quite understand why this one is so hard.

That's just it. It's not just the motor.

It's the motor,

The electronics, (And wiring harness)

The transmission (you'll need to have a different one; the ones that came with the motor didn't even stand up to it).

The downpipe/related exhaust,

Intercooler setup,

As well as the other drivetrain components that the low end torque will likely destroy. Shafts, tcase, etc.


Trying to buy all the above components on the open market will, if you add it up, cost you more money than if you bought a Ty and used the parts that you need. One would really question the reason-ability of this, unless the Ty in question was a junker or rusty.

This all assumes that you find a really good used Sy motor reasonably priced (one was recently advertised for $6k), that actually works and doesn't have internal damage. This is a large assumption to make.

If you figured you were gonna get a motor and drop it in cheap and easy, it's much more involved than that.

 

[powercat6]

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http://www.sytyperformance.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=200&keyword=&manufacturer_id=0&Itemid=26&orderby=product_name&limit=50&limitstart=0

Connecting rods $425
Nitrided Crank $575
Intercooler $1195

That's $2195 and you still need turbo, exhaust, transmission, ignition, upper and lower intake manifolds, ecu, wiring, gaskets, block, pistons, etc..

Granted you can get lucky and find some of those items for less, but you're in college; don't worry about a fast car right now. Get through college, get a job and then start saving for your project or dream car. That's what I did.

 

[freaksafe]

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You need to stop where you are at with your idea. You allready quoted the most important phrase." This will be a daily driver i just want something that will run strong for a long time."

These motors stock will not run for a long time. It WILL blow up and leave you stranded. It takes alot of search's on here and alot of post reading to grab the concept of just how finiky these motors are.

Dont expect to drop it in and drive it 100k miles.....you will be lucky to get 40k out of it...granted you baby it.

well then that completely defeats the purpose.

 

[13Pelle]

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well then that completely defeats the purpose.

Yes it does.....these truck can be a nightmare on their own let alone a transplant. I would say if your going through with it make sure you keep a second reliable mode of transportation cause you will need it. :2cents:

 

[Daryl H]

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I would rather see you spend all this energy fixing up a beaten down Typhoon than just wasting it away with a transplant.

You can drive around town beating up on people at the stoplight who will ask what a Typhoon is.
"Damn that is quick!!!"
Or drive around and beat up on people with a "V8" in a Blazer who will just chalk it up to a loss.
No one really cares if there is a Blazer on the street.