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Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
I am not in a hurry, but am interested in a pre-cut SY setup ---
I am not in a hurry, but am interested in a pre-cut SY setup ---
homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
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crazykaese
91ProtoTy/IndyPaceTribute & Sawzall Master
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Mine should have a rollcage installed by JEff Scott by then hopefully and an external electric fuel pump - those two things alone should make it plenty loud and annoying.
Plus it already has a 3" stainless ATR exhaust on it - louder than stock.
Should be a good candidate for ya.
Mine should have a rollcage installed by JEff Scott by then hopefully and an external electric fuel pump - those two things alone should make it plenty loud and annoying.
Plus it already has a 3" stainless ATR exhaust on it - louder than stock.
Should be a good candidate for ya.
warmpancakes
New member
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
it will help with the exhaust for the pump rubber isolate it and that will help ALOT
it will help with the exhaust for the pump rubber isolate it and that will help ALOT
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Got the measurments for both sy and ty over to Don about a hour ago . I want to clarify this kit meaning all material to complete the job for our trucks . We will still have to trim and cut to fit.
Got the measurments for both sy and ty over to Don about a hour ago . I want to clarify this kit meaning all material to complete the job for our trucks . We will still have to trim and cut to fit.
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Don Shoud be joining us soon hopefully. I beleive he is our newest syty member under user name SDS .
Don Shoud be joining us soon hopefully. I beleive he is our newest syty member under user name SDS .
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Don sent me this today . This is everything needed for the Typhoon. This is for the ultimate sound deadening solution.
Front Doors (each):
Outer skin measurement - 23"X36". Trim panel dimensions would help.
4 CLD Tiles, outer skin
2 CLD Tiles, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
Extruded Butyl Rope
5.8 ft² MLV
5.8 ft² 1/4" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Cargo Door:
15"X46"
3 CLD Tiles, outer skin
1 CLD Tiles, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
Extruded Butyl Rope
4.8 ft² MLV
4.8 ft² 1/4" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Clean the outer skin thoroughly. No matter how clean the rest of the vehicle is, the inside of the doors is likely to be filthy. I use denatured alcohol on a rag. Wipe it down until the rag comes out clean.
Start by pressing Extruded Butyl Rope (EBR) between the outer skin and the side impact protection beams. Leave gaps every few inches to allow water to drain. Cut some strips from a heavy plastic bag and press them into the top surface of the EBR to protect it from dirt.
Apply half the CLD Tiles allocated to the outer skin above and half below the side impact protection beam. Cut 2 more CLD Tiles into smaller pieces and apply them to the inner door skin.
Hang MLV on the inner door skin using Velcro Patches with pressure sensitive adhesive on both sides. The patches are 2"X4" but you can cut them in half for this application (most applications really). Start with 2 pieces in the top corners to hold the MLV in place while you trim it to fit. You want it to be as large as it can be - just barely fitting inside the trim panel when it is replaced. You will need to cut some holes in the MLV to allow cables, rods, shafts, wires, clips and the speakers to come through. You want these holes to be as small as possible. Every place we use MLV we are building a barrier and a barrier needs to be as large and contiguous as possible.
It helps during the fitting process to periodically remove the MLV from the door and lay it in the trim panel to test fit it. The Velcro makes this easy. When you first hang the MLV on the door, cut holes where the trim panel clips go into the door. You can then use these holes to orient the MLV inside the trim panel.
When you are satisfied with the MLV fit, add two more Velcro Patch pieces to the bottom corners. It's generally a good idea to add a third piece on top for added strength. Finally, use HH-66 Vinyl Cement to tack a layer of closed cell foam (CCF) on the side of the MLV facing the trim panel. When the trim panel is reinstalled, the CCF will compress slightly, getting rid of rattles and buzzes in the trim panel itself and between the trim panel and the inner door skin.
Firewall:
28"X51"
6 CLD Tiles
10 ft² MLV
10 ft² 1/8" CCF
4 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Here's how I hang MLC and 1/8" CCF on vertical surfaces:
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/pdf/CCF_MLV_2side_Velcro.pdf
Floor:
56"X87"
20 CLD Tiles
33.9 ft² MLV
33.9 ft² 1/4" CCF
Apply the CLD Tiles to the sheet metal. Cut 1/4" CCF to fit the bottoms of the floor pans and up into the foot wells and lay it in place. You really don't need any adhesive or other attachment products for the floor. Gravity, the carpet and trim panels will hold everything in place. Finally, lay MLV on top of the CCF, extending up the center tunnel, sills and everywhere you can without interfering with trim panel replacement. You will need to cut holes for the seat bolt downs and seat belt anchors if they are on the floor. Again, make these holes as small as possible. You are basically upholstering the floor with MLV. MLV is quite flexible and will easily follow a simple curve. Where it needs to be fitted to complex curves you will need to do some cutting. Use HH-66 to seal the seams in the MLV as you go.
If the back seat sits on a ledge with little space between it and the bottom of the seat, you'll want to substitute 1/8" CCF for that area.
Cargo Floor:
9 CLD Tiles
13.7 ft² MLV
13.7 ft² 1/8" CCF
Quarter Panels (each):
52"X17"
Wheel Wells (each):
16"X10"
5 CLD Tiles
7.3 ft² MLV
7.3 ft² 1/8" CCF
4 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Roof:
82"X46"
16 CLD Tiles
Pillars (each):
52"X22"
5 CLD Tiles
General Notes
HH-66 is a contact adhesive that will only bond materials with vinyl content. That means MLV to MLV, CCF (like the material I sell with vinyl content) to CCF and MLV to CCF. You need to coat both surfaces and let them dry until just tacky, 3-5 minutes. Press the two parts together. The bond is more than strong enough to work with immediately. It will achieve its full strength after a few hours.
Velcro Patches can be cut in half (2”X2”) for all but the most demanding applications. When working with the self-adhesive side(s) of the Velcro Patches press the entire assembly into place. It is a good idea to gently separate the hook and loop sides and press them down by individually to make sure the bond is complete.
Totals:
87 CLD Tiles
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope
88.6 ft² MLV
50.3 ft² 1/4" CCF
38.3 ft² 1/8" CCF
20 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement
As an Order:
87 CLD Tiles @ 2.25 = $195.75
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope @ 8.75 = 8.75
1 90 ft² roll MLV @ 160.00 = 160.00
4 sheets 1/4" CCF @ 27.65 = 110.60
3 sheets 1/8" CCF @ 14.95 = 44.85
2 Velcro Strips, adh. 2 sides, 10-pack @ 14.65 = 29.30
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement @ 15.25 - 15.25
1 2" Maple Roller (Free w/ 60+ CLD Tiles) N/C
Sub Total: $564.50
Shipping will depend on your city and zip. This is my best estimate of a full treatment and will add something less than 120 pounds to the vehicle. More targeted, less expensive and lighter solutions can be designed if you want to target a specific noise source. These tend to be less effective in SUVs than other vehicle types since the cargo area shares airspace with the passenger compartment.
-- Don Sambrook
Sound Deadener Showdown, LLC
410.458.6418
don@sounddeadenershowdown.com
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
Don sent me this today . This is everything needed for the Typhoon. This is for the ultimate sound deadening solution.
Front Doors (each):
Outer skin measurement - 23"X36". Trim panel dimensions would help.
4 CLD Tiles, outer skin
2 CLD Tiles, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
Extruded Butyl Rope
5.8 ft² MLV
5.8 ft² 1/4" CCF
2.5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Cargo Door:
15"X46"
3 CLD Tiles, outer skin
1 CLD Tiles, cut into smaller pieces, inner skin
Extruded Butyl Rope
4.8 ft² MLV
4.8 ft² 1/4" CCF
3 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Clean the outer skin thoroughly. No matter how clean the rest of the vehicle is, the inside of the doors is likely to be filthy. I use denatured alcohol on a rag. Wipe it down until the rag comes out clean.
Start by pressing Extruded Butyl Rope (EBR) between the outer skin and the side impact protection beams. Leave gaps every few inches to allow water to drain. Cut some strips from a heavy plastic bag and press them into the top surface of the EBR to protect it from dirt.
Apply half the CLD Tiles allocated to the outer skin above and half below the side impact protection beam. Cut 2 more CLD Tiles into smaller pieces and apply them to the inner door skin.
Hang MLV on the inner door skin using Velcro Patches with pressure sensitive adhesive on both sides. The patches are 2"X4" but you can cut them in half for this application (most applications really). Start with 2 pieces in the top corners to hold the MLV in place while you trim it to fit. You want it to be as large as it can be - just barely fitting inside the trim panel when it is replaced. You will need to cut some holes in the MLV to allow cables, rods, shafts, wires, clips and the speakers to come through. You want these holes to be as small as possible. Every place we use MLV we are building a barrier and a barrier needs to be as large and contiguous as possible.
It helps during the fitting process to periodically remove the MLV from the door and lay it in the trim panel to test fit it. The Velcro makes this easy. When you first hang the MLV on the door, cut holes where the trim panel clips go into the door. You can then use these holes to orient the MLV inside the trim panel.
When you are satisfied with the MLV fit, add two more Velcro Patch pieces to the bottom corners. It's generally a good idea to add a third piece on top for added strength. Finally, use HH-66 Vinyl Cement to tack a layer of closed cell foam (CCF) on the side of the MLV facing the trim panel. When the trim panel is reinstalled, the CCF will compress slightly, getting rid of rattles and buzzes in the trim panel itself and between the trim panel and the inner door skin.
Firewall:
28"X51"
6 CLD Tiles
10 ft² MLV
10 ft² 1/8" CCF
4 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Here's how I hang MLC and 1/8" CCF on vertical surfaces:
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/pdf/CCF_MLV_2side_Velcro.pdf
Floor:
56"X87"
20 CLD Tiles
33.9 ft² MLV
33.9 ft² 1/4" CCF
Apply the CLD Tiles to the sheet metal. Cut 1/4" CCF to fit the bottoms of the floor pans and up into the foot wells and lay it in place. You really don't need any adhesive or other attachment products for the floor. Gravity, the carpet and trim panels will hold everything in place. Finally, lay MLV on top of the CCF, extending up the center tunnel, sills and everywhere you can without interfering with trim panel replacement. You will need to cut holes for the seat bolt downs and seat belt anchors if they are on the floor. Again, make these holes as small as possible. You are basically upholstering the floor with MLV. MLV is quite flexible and will easily follow a simple curve. Where it needs to be fitted to complex curves you will need to do some cutting. Use HH-66 to seal the seams in the MLV as you go.
If the back seat sits on a ledge with little space between it and the bottom of the seat, you'll want to substitute 1/8" CCF for that area.
Cargo Floor:
9 CLD Tiles
13.7 ft² MLV
13.7 ft² 1/8" CCF
Quarter Panels (each):
52"X17"
Wheel Wells (each):
16"X10"
5 CLD Tiles
7.3 ft² MLV
7.3 ft² 1/8" CCF
4 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
Roof:
82"X46"
16 CLD Tiles
Pillars (each):
52"X22"
5 CLD Tiles
General Notes
HH-66 is a contact adhesive that will only bond materials with vinyl content. That means MLV to MLV, CCF (like the material I sell with vinyl content) to CCF and MLV to CCF. You need to coat both surfaces and let them dry until just tacky, 3-5 minutes. Press the two parts together. The bond is more than strong enough to work with immediately. It will achieve its full strength after a few hours.
Velcro Patches can be cut in half (2”X2”) for all but the most demanding applications. When working with the self-adhesive side(s) of the Velcro Patches press the entire assembly into place. It is a good idea to gently separate the hook and loop sides and press them down by individually to make sure the bond is complete.
Totals:
87 CLD Tiles
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope
88.6 ft² MLV
50.3 ft² 1/4" CCF
38.3 ft² 1/8" CCF
20 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement
As an Order:
87 CLD Tiles @ 2.25 = $195.75
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope @ 8.75 = 8.75
1 90 ft² roll MLV @ 160.00 = 160.00
4 sheets 1/4" CCF @ 27.65 = 110.60
3 sheets 1/8" CCF @ 14.95 = 44.85
2 Velcro Strips, adh. 2 sides, 10-pack @ 14.65 = 29.30
1 32 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement @ 15.25 - 15.25
1 2" Maple Roller (Free w/ 60+ CLD Tiles) N/C
Sub Total: $564.50
Shipping will depend on your city and zip. This is my best estimate of a full treatment and will add something less than 120 pounds to the vehicle. More targeted, less expensive and lighter solutions can be designed if you want to target a specific noise source. These tend to be less effective in SUVs than other vehicle types since the cargo area shares airspace with the passenger compartment.
-- Don Sambrook
Sound Deadener Showdown, LLC
410.458.6418
don@sounddeadenershowdown.com
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
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craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
SDS sound deadner showdown signed up here last week but still is waiting for administrator. approval.
SDS sound deadner showdown signed up here last week but still is waiting for administrator. approval.
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Do you realize how much more area is in a Typhoon ? Cargo area, roof, floor. I hope you did your Syclone for alot less since there is no cargo area barely no floor or roof . Also the e dead you used is very inferior to many soundeadners on the market . Google edead reviews . edead looses its adhesive after time.
Do you realize how much more area is in a Typhoon ? Cargo area, roof, floor. I hope you did your Syclone for alot less since there is no cargo area barely no floor or roof . Also the e dead you used is very inferior to many soundeadners on the market . Google edead reviews . edead looses its adhesive after time.
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
This is a dead fish . I havent heard from Don and does not seem to be alot of interest anyways .
This is a dead fish . I havent heard from Don and does not seem to be alot of interest anyways .
craig jones
Formerly Scary Phoon
Re: homecoming sounddeadnershowdown samples
Ill try to get something together. I still havent heard from Don . Don if you read this PM me .