GM Part# for trans pan
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SY2932
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Re: GM Part# for trans pan
Did you try sytyauthority.net? Jas has GM #24210915 on there in the drivetrain section.
Did you try sytyauthority.net? Jas has GM #24210915 on there in the drivetrain section.
SYO237
SyTy Registry
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
That TCI piece above looks stout... almost overkill
I'll call GM tomorrow and ask about the pan and see what they say about what filter # needs to be used according to their files. Guess I'll buy a kit from autozone too and see whats up.
Is there a truck that came factory with the 700 and deep pan? Might help in doing some cross reference.
That TCI piece above looks stout... almost overkill
I'll call GM tomorrow and ask about the pan and see what they say about what filter # needs to be used according to their files. Guess I'll buy a kit from autozone too and see whats up.
Is there a truck that came factory with the 700 and deep pan? Might help in doing some cross reference.
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
The problem I have with the Derale pan is the rear cooling tubes butt up against the trans crossmember, blocking access to the 13mm pan bolts. Even after grinding them down, access is still very difficult. Getting the pan out becomes a job requiring the agility like building a Ship in a Bottle, like so many jobs on these trucks.....
Who has suggested letting the stock filter hang free? Like they already stated, the Derale pan has cooling tubes that provide support, and the TCI pan has supports cast into it. So both deep pans provide support for the filter.DaveP said:
Count me as one of those guys with no issues for 5 years now, 700R4 with Derale pan. Mine has been raced hard as hell. Never had a problem with the filter.
The problem I have with the Derale pan is the rear cooling tubes butt up against the trans crossmember, blocking access to the 13mm pan bolts. Even after grinding them down, access is still very difficult. Getting the pan out becomes a job requiring the agility like building a Ship in a Bottle, like so many jobs on these trucks.....
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
OK Dave I re-read it and you're right. By the time I got to the bottom I was thinking about the Derale and TCI and forgot about the GM pan which nobody posted images of. Sorry for the mix-up.
The Derale pan is deeper and the fact that by your own admission the 1999 Tahoe featured a deep pan, suggests that GM agrees with the theory that increased fluid capacity can extend transmission life.
I clean the inside of my Derale pan with a thorough solvent cleaning in the parts washer followed by a heavy blast of shop air. It comes out spotless, but I can see your concern.
Is there REALLY a difference between the deep pans and the stock pans? I guess we won't know for sure unless someone does a back to back scientific comparison.
OK Dave I re-read it and you're right. By the time I got to the bottom I was thinking about the Derale and TCI and forgot about the GM pan which nobody posted images of. Sorry for the mix-up.
The Derale pan is deeper and the fact that by your own admission the 1999 Tahoe featured a deep pan, suggests that GM agrees with the theory that increased fluid capacity can extend transmission life.
I clean the inside of my Derale pan with a thorough solvent cleaning in the parts washer followed by a heavy blast of shop air. It comes out spotless, but I can see your concern.
Is there REALLY a difference between the deep pans and the stock pans? I guess we won't know for sure unless someone does a back to back scientific comparison.
Christian Dionne
Member
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
The full size 88+ pick ups had the one quart larger pans and longer filters. I got one off my dad's truck and put it on my old Syclone. It's a "5 quart change" instead of a "4 quart" according to him.
The full size 88+ pick ups had the one quart larger pans and longer filters. I got one off my dad's truck and put it on my old Syclone. It's a "5 quart change" instead of a "4 quart" according to him.
sytyguy
Moderated User
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
Well, the WIX 58847 didn't pan out. According to internal documentation, it appears to be a scheduled supercession # for the 58607. It was only fractionally taller, with a barely larger diameter tube, and didn't have the seal ridge cast into the neck.
At this point, I'm with Dave....I see no alternative for a deep (non-E) filter kit. Unless someone custom makes one or makes a mod kit for the short filter (either a neck extension or something that can snap into the suction hole on the filter to extend down the extra depth) we're OOL.
Well, the WIX 58847 didn't pan out. According to internal documentation, it appears to be a scheduled supercession # for the 58607. It was only fractionally taller, with a barely larger diameter tube, and didn't have the seal ridge cast into the neck.
At this point, I'm with Dave....I see no alternative for a deep (non-E) filter kit. Unless someone custom makes one or makes a mod kit for the short filter (either a neck extension or something that can snap into the suction hole on the filter to extend down the extra depth) we're OOL.
jwaller
Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: GM Part# for trans pan
the "700" / "4L60" non electronic never had a deep pan from GM and thus never got a long neck filter.
all the long filter are for the "E"'s.
I do remeber a company that supplied a extension tube with their deeper pans to put the filter back in the bottom as it is stock. I think it was about a 1" alum tube that had the same gasket as a stock filter and slide into the pump and then your filter slipped into it.
I'm one of those who has run the deep pan and stock filter for 100k miles and more on multiple trannies and not a problem yet. I've felt the need for a proper fix so I put a few support legs in the deep pan so tha it doesnt hang down.
with the fluid sloshing around and such there really isnt any differance in tem between the top and bottom of the pan.
HTH's you some.
the "700" / "4L60" non electronic never had a deep pan from GM and thus never got a long neck filter.
all the long filter are for the "E"'s.
I do remeber a company that supplied a extension tube with their deeper pans to put the filter back in the bottom as it is stock. I think it was about a 1" alum tube that had the same gasket as a stock filter and slide into the pump and then your filter slipped into it.
I'm one of those who has run the deep pan and stock filter for 100k miles and more on multiple trannies and not a problem yet. I've felt the need for a proper fix so I put a few support legs in the deep pan so tha it doesnt hang down.
with the fluid sloshing around and such there really isnt any differance in tem between the top and bottom of the pan.
HTH's you some.