front and rear drive shaft loops, Phil C's

Pittman

Pittman

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Just did this last weekend. Both were about a 45 minute install start to finish. After you see some pics of what the prop shaft can take out when it breaks is a hard selling point for loops. The kits are well thought out and worh every dollar. The front one is peace of mind on any truck.

I also got that damned prop rod out of the way.






http://www.autoperformanceengineering.com/
 
hamrhead

hamrhead

Donating Member
I've had a rear loop on my truck for years, but recently I purchased a front loop and it IS a very nice and well thought out piece! BEEFY too! :D
Thanks Phil!
 
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E-Rue

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mine doesnt fit.
its sitting in the corner collecting dust.

i cant decide if i have a different propshaft, or if my poly mounts have lifted the motor and tranny up a 1/2", but that propshaft loop definately rubs the top of the propshaft when its bolted in place. think i need a spacer or something to get it up off the top of the shaft....... but then it might hit the floor. hmmmm.........

hey phill is theer any way i can get another one of the bottom plates?
i could use the extra as a spacer.

mabe ill figure it out next week. im tired now and i feel like drinking. drove out to the track tonight, and it was closed from the rain. :-?
i really want to get a few passes in before it gets cold and all the tracks are closed.

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PhilnTX

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There are several possible reasons that the loop may have some interference. The propshaft may be an aftermarket unit with a larger joint. The motor mounts may be weak, allowing the engine to torque over too much, the mounts may be taller, the crossmember may have been "tweaked", etc.

I sent you a couple of possible solutions to your email id.

I'll send you a spacer on Monday. Try the other suggestions that I sent and let me know how it works.

Basically, you'll need to "rock" the loop on the curved side more to the top of the truck. You do this by inserting a 1/2" nut between the bottom portion of the curved section, after loosening the two main connection bolts. Reposition the loop to where you should have at least 3/4" clearance on the top. Retighten the main bolts. I sent you a picture illustrating this.

This should make it fit.

Should have let me know sooner!

Phil
 
hamrhead

hamrhead

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Forgot to mention I have JS Design Poly mounts, a TCI deep trans pan, and the stock prop shaft. Front loop fits just fine. :D
 
mrweelr

mrweelr

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How much do those pieces weight including all of the mounting hardware etc.? Just wondering 'cause I hate adding weight to my Sy. Sounds like a good safety mod though.
 
0966Sy

0966Sy

Code what?
Phil,

Could you PM me your mailing address and a total for the front propshaft loop shiped to this zip (77386 Spring, TX) so I can send you a U.S postal money order in the mail for the loop. I dont have to pay state tax do I :roll:

Thank you sir
Erik
 
SY2932

SY2932

Administrator
The propshaft loop weighs 7.5 pounds. I took mine off last year after I got a gigantic custom propshaft with a 2" OD... I have the rear safety loop also but, it's still on my truck so I can't weigh it. It's the older style Phil made that didn't require you to remove the driveshaft to install so, it wouldn't be the exact same weight anywho. But I'm guessing the rear loop is around say 9-10ish pounds. HTH's

Mike Campbell
 
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PhilnTX

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Loop Weights

Loop Weights

I don't have the individual weights handy, but I just shipped a set this afternoon and with the packing materials, box, etc., the weight was 17.1 lbs.

Phil
 
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skata

Donating Member
correct me if i'm wrong but, the front shaft loop only holds the front drive shaft if the rear u-joint snaps. what about if the front u-joint breaks? will it drop to the pavement and get shoved back into the transfer case? or could it wack the engine? or is it just more prone to snap near the transfer case?
 
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PhilnTX

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Breakage

Breakage

In the 7 years that I have either been interested in the SyTy and/the 5 years that I've owned my Typhoons, I've heard of one front propshaft breaking at the front location. This was on a truck that had a makeshift shaft with a poor weld. The stock front joint is much stronger than the stock rear double joint. If you've ever seen one that's broken, they all break at about the same location, where the steel is the thinnest. Also, if the shaft has never been lubricated, it tends to create a weaker spot on the shaft after the bearings lock up.

I've only had the one experience with the shaft breaking at the front nearest the diff. There may be more, but they've not been posted on the web since I joined in '95.

Hope this answered your question.
Phil
 
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