Dyno run

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Yesterday I went to the Bullseye Power car show, and had the opportunity to dyno the truck. Many members on here feel that the dyno is not a worthwhile endeavor, but if used as a tool to verify tuning trends I feel it is useful. I pulled the front propshaft off at home and brought it with me so I could reinstall it while I was there once I was finished.

X&M Dyno brought their portable dyno unit to the event. It was 3 pulls for $65, and $10 for each additional pull. The system was a Dynojet dyno. I paid my money, and was the first one on the dyno.

My first pull was the tune I drove in on. I spent quite a bit of time playing with this on the street - getting it fairly good. It was a 21# tune on E85.

First pull was 467HP/596TQ. My AFR's were 9.2 once I got into boost hard. I went through and pulled a bit of fuel out in the affected cells and made another pull.

Second pull was 482HP/627TQ. Still the AFR's were 9.2 once boost came in. I went back to the affected cells and pulled another 5% out of them.

Third pull was 497HP/638TQ. AFR's still didn't move! I started questioning my WBO2 sensor. I pulled #1 and #2 plugs and read them....still very fat. Pulled another 5% out and upped the boost to 22#.

Last pull was 511HP/650TQ and a max of 22.5# boost. AFR's were just starting to move off 10.2. I could have made another pass up there, but I was happy enough.

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At this point, I sat down with the last dyno chart and look a good look at it. The truck is running very strong and still is fat. I know the dyno was not loading the vehicle as it is on the street, but I was able to see a few tuning things that I didnt have good feedback on while on the road.

I parked the truck, let it cool off, then put the propshaft back in. There were 20 other vehivles there - diesel trucks, ricers, and a couple domestic cars (newer Roush stage 3, 99 4.6L w/Vortec V-1, WS6). As the dyno runs continued, I went through my tune a little more with what I learned from the dyno. I took a few people for a good launch, and they came back with a different mindset on what these little trucks can do!

All in all, I had a blast. The truck is doing fantastically with such a small turbo (62mm compressor wheel, T3 housing, .70A/R) when compared to others with larger turbos. on the street, the truck gets on boost very fast. On this dyno sheet, it looks a little lazy getting from 2500-3500, but I had to roll into it because if I didn't, it would downshift and mess up the pull - we had to abort 3 runs because of this!. It grabs second gear (if you're in it hard) and breaks them loose for a quick second as it moves out. All in all, this is definitely a great little turbo for many people out there. I plan on spending a little more time with it - trying to see how far I can get this little thing to make power. If I am reading the compressor map properly, I still have another 150HP or so before I hit the wall with it.

I will see if I can get videos up later tomorrow!
 

bundie

New member
Re: Dyno run

Damn hot numbers!!! and with 22,5 psi and a AFR off 10.2 you have strong and pretty safe HP!
 

BigBadSmoosh

Picking fights on I-65 since 2013
Re: Dyno run

very nice numbers.. were people pissed because you took time to tune and whatnot inbetween pulls?
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Dyno run

Thats great to hear about your truck Alex ,those are some good numbers . Didnt know you were strickly e85 now , I cant even get that stuff around here .
 

93 TY 2185

Donating Member
Re: Dyno run

Great job Alex a lot of hard work to get to that point...Congrats!:tup:

The stoich AFR for E85 (at 85% Ethanol) is 9.76. Are you getting a little lean at 10.2?
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Dyno run

Thanks guys...it feels good to be making headway!

I was the first one in line. The event was not to start until around noon, so I had plenty of time. I had all those runs done in 35 minutes...from driving up to driving down.

The AFR's are on a gas meter. I am tuning for what the truck wants. Reading the plugs, it seems that I need to take a little tiny bit of timing out around peak torque, but I mean just a little (mark is just past the bend).

The thing I need to look at this evening (after dinner) will be how the dyno tune differs in fueling from my street tune.
 

sharkbait

New member
Re: Dyno run

alex, do you mind if i ask what are the specs on your build/turbo/converter? and are you just using code59? or a stand alone dfi? thanks
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Dyno run

Great job Alex a lot of hard work to get to that point...Congrats!:tup:

The stoich AFR for E85 (at 85% Ethanol) is 9.76. Are you getting a little lean at 10.2?

As Alex pointed out just about every AFR gauge is calibrated for Gas. So you basically read the gauge the same regardless of what fuel is in it.

Good job on the dyno Alex. :tup::tup::tup:
 

sharkbait

New member
Re: Dyno run

As Alex pointed out just about every AFR gauge is calibrated for Gas. So you basically read the gauge the same regardless of what fuel is in it.

Good job on the dyno Alex. :tup::tup::tup:

and its running fat because...............?

i know that e85 you have to run way more fuel than you do with regular gas or even race fuel. but why is he taking fuel out and still only runs a little less rich than last run?
 

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Dyno run

You can find it if you search this site a bit, but here goes:

Stock block, stock crank, short-fill, H-beams, MAHLE pistons, custom cam, L35's, 85#ers, aftermarket w2a IC, CompR62 62mm turbo, stock manifolds, custom 3" DP, Rossler TH400, TCI 3000-stall, Bigstuff3 ECM

It was running fat because the dyno wasnt loading the truck like it is when on the street. This evening, I went out and ran the dyno tune on the street. I had to add fuel (about 12%) up top to get it where it wanted to be (again - by reading the plugs).
 

1madgumby

New member
Re: Dyno run

Good job Alex, Sorry I could not make it, went to visit my mom in KY. with the wife & kids, I wanted to come, but they over run me 3 to 1. Let me know if you go again, O got the HD tran. in over the weekend that I got from epix, seems to work good.
 
Re: Dyno run

Great job Alex a lot of hard work to get to that point...Congrats!:tup:

The stoich AFR for E85 (at 85% Ethanol) is 9.76. Are you getting a little lean at 10.2?

This statement is only true if he as his WB is set on E85 scale. Matter of fact that would mean he would be lean enough to cause lean surges.

If his WB is still on gas scale than at 10.2 is just coming into the sweet spot on e85.
Being in the 9s is unsafe with e85. Can lead to preignition.

Personally i would use the tune you ended up with on the dyno.

Nice #s by the way.

Alex. You didnt by chance venture down to Grandville on Sat. night did you? There happened to be a dark green Ty down at the cruise spot the was rumored 500 rwhp. As it rolled away I though I caught a wif of e85.
 

Mtn Z

Donating Member
Re: Dyno run

I love how much torque these things put out. It's also impressive to see how hard it continues to pull past 6000rpm. I can imagine that thing must have blown the tires away like crazy with the downshift considering how bad even a stock truck does it without a propshaft. :tup:
 

UR50SLO

V6+2=LSXCamaro
Re: Dyno run

Alex. You didnt by chance venture down to Grandville on Sat. night did you? There happened to be a dark green Ty down at the cruise spot the was rumored 500 rwhp. As it rolled away I though I caught a wif of e85.

Haaha that was funny..

Great numbers dude.. :)

Let me know when the vid is up!
~Scotgt
 
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