Now im sure this is a topic thats been beaten to death. but i was wondering what parts for the SY/Ty drive trains are just standard Gm components. and if they aren't standard then what was changed about them? If there is a topic that covers all this that has a lot of useful info in it then feel free to link me and ill just delete this one. thanks guys.
compatibility with standard s/T trucks
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jjorgensen52
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Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
all the info is posted, but I am not sure if it's in any one coherent place.
Off the top of my head:
-rear end is a standard GM 7.625" , with G80 code 3.42
-driveshaft is stock
-propshaft is same as bravada IIRC
-transfer case is stock bravada stuff
-front diff is standard 3.42 bravada, but the right axle tube is syty specific IIRC
-tranny is standard 4L60, but it has a different valve body, servos and clutches
-If drivetrain includes motor... the block, rods and crank are stock, as are the heads, for an LB4 motor. pistons, intake/exhaust manifolds, cam, DP, etc are not same.
-Halfshafts are stock
-hubs are stock (they have a different part number, but they are interchangeable)
-brakes = stock
-Converter is higher stall than a normal S-Truck (think it came from a vette but not sure)
all the info is posted, but I am not sure if it's in any one coherent place.
Off the top of my head:
-rear end is a standard GM 7.625" , with G80 code 3.42
-driveshaft is stock
-propshaft is same as bravada IIRC
-transfer case is stock bravada stuff
-front diff is standard 3.42 bravada, but the right axle tube is syty specific IIRC
-tranny is standard 4L60, but it has a different valve body, servos and clutches
-If drivetrain includes motor... the block, rods and crank are stock, as are the heads, for an LB4 motor. pistons, intake/exhaust manifolds, cam, DP, etc are not same.
-Halfshafts are stock
-hubs are stock (they have a different part number, but they are interchangeable)
-brakes = stock
-Converter is higher stall than a normal S-Truck (think it came from a vette but not sure)
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
Pretty good list, the TC is higher than stock but it didn't come from the Corvette either. I have no idea what other vehicle used it (probably fullsized trucks). Anywyas its nothing special or unique. Its one of the higher stalls GM used, but it wasn't the highest.
jjorgensen52 said:
Pretty good list, the TC is higher than stock but it didn't come from the Corvette either. I have no idea what other vehicle used it (probably fullsized trucks). Anywyas its nothing special or unique. Its one of the higher stalls GM used, but it wasn't the highest.
or at least it will soon
myclone
Donating Member
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
I agree with Dave...thats a pretty good list.
There are some details that may or may not be worth mentioning depending on what youre doing. If youre doing a syty clone using a regular 4wd blazer or S10 then you can pretty well ignore the following about the hubs/axles but if youre starting with the real deal then this may save you some grief later:
Front hubs/rear axles: Youll need parts that are for a syty or bravada if you keep the anti lock since regular S10 parts dont have the tone rings or the sensors. A lot of ppl remove the anti lock anyways since it has a mind of its own so it may not be a big deal for you to begin with. If you ditch the anti lock then regular 4wd S10 parts will work.
Cam: Its the stock LB4 low lift piece...nothing special and a broom handle has more lift :lol: .
Converter: I swear Ive seen what stock application GM used for the syty converter but its been eons and I dont recall what it was. However, if youre going to use a stock GM piece and no one chimes in with the syty application then get one for a TPI vette or TPI 350 F body since it will be the highest stall. Next in line would be a TBI 4.3 converter then a TBI 350. TBI 305s use a stupid low stall converter and the only thing tighter is one for a pick up with a diesel so stay away from those two applications unless youre towing. If youre really brave you might check to see if the 4cyl S10 converter will work...I dunno if it will but a bud had a 2wd S10/auto he bought brand new that stalled WAY up there...it was turd slow but still sounded like it had a 5k RPM converter in it.
jjorgensen52 said:
I agree with Dave...thats a pretty good list.
There are some details that may or may not be worth mentioning depending on what youre doing. If youre doing a syty clone using a regular 4wd blazer or S10 then you can pretty well ignore the following about the hubs/axles but if youre starting with the real deal then this may save you some grief later:
Front hubs/rear axles: Youll need parts that are for a syty or bravada if you keep the anti lock since regular S10 parts dont have the tone rings or the sensors. A lot of ppl remove the anti lock anyways since it has a mind of its own so it may not be a big deal for you to begin with. If you ditch the anti lock then regular 4wd S10 parts will work.
Cam: Its the stock LB4 low lift piece...nothing special and a broom handle has more lift :lol: .
Converter: I swear Ive seen what stock application GM used for the syty converter but its been eons and I dont recall what it was. However, if youre going to use a stock GM piece and no one chimes in with the syty application then get one for a TPI vette or TPI 350 F body since it will be the highest stall. Next in line would be a TBI 4.3 converter then a TBI 350. TBI 305s use a stupid low stall converter and the only thing tighter is one for a pick up with a diesel so stay away from those two applications unless youre towing. If youre really brave you might check to see if the 4cyl S10 converter will work...I dunno if it will but a bud had a 2wd S10/auto he bought brand new that stalled WAY up there...it was turd slow but still sounded like it had a 5k RPM converter in it.
jjorgensen52
NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
Fixing noted discrepancies:
-rear end is a standard GM 7.625" , with G80 code 3.42
-driveshaft is stock
-propshaft is same as bravada
-transfer case is stock bravada stuff
-front diff is standard 3.42 bravada, but the right axle tube is syty specific
-tranny is standard 4L60, but it has a different valve body, servos and clutches
-If drivetrain includes motor... the block, rods, cam and crank are stock, as are the heads, for an LB4 motor. pistons, intake/exhaust manifolds, DP, etc are not same.
-Halfshafts are stock
-hubs are stock for a bravada (they have a different part number, but they are interchangeable)
-brakes = stock
-Converter is higher stall than a normal S-Truck (from another GM app, not sure which)
And Shuggs... some day someone might have the time to compile that list, but not in this forum :lol:
Fixing noted discrepancies:
-rear end is a standard GM 7.625" , with G80 code 3.42
-driveshaft is stock
-propshaft is same as bravada
-transfer case is stock bravada stuff
-front diff is standard 3.42 bravada, but the right axle tube is syty specific
-tranny is standard 4L60, but it has a different valve body, servos and clutches
-If drivetrain includes motor... the block, rods, cam and crank are stock, as are the heads, for an LB4 motor. pistons, intake/exhaust manifolds, DP, etc are not same.
-Halfshafts are stock
-hubs are stock for a bravada (they have a different part number, but they are interchangeable)
-brakes = stock
-Converter is higher stall than a normal S-Truck (from another GM app, not sure which)
And Shuggs... some day someone might have the time to compile that list, but not in this forum :lol:
jjorgensen52
NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?p=447561#post447561
ShuggsRR said:
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?p=447561#post447561
mattw
Active member
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
I think the rear driveshaft is slightly shorter than a standard s-series as the awd case is a tad bit longer than a 4x4 case...
Are you sure that the right axle tube differs from a Bravada? I think its the same.. It def differs from a 4x4 as it doesn't have that linkage coupling to engage/disengage..
-Matt
jjorgensen52 said:
I think the rear driveshaft is slightly shorter than a standard s-series as the awd case is a tad bit longer than a 4x4 case...
Are you sure that the right axle tube differs from a Bravada? I think its the same.. It def differs from a 4x4 as it doesn't have that linkage coupling to engage/disengage..
-Matt
ShuggsRR
Donating Member
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
Actually yes, I have two S10 driveshafts but couldnt finish my drivetrain on the tyclone till I took a Typhoon driveshaft and fit it right in.
Mine is a 4x4 Jimmy and the 4x4 shaft fit until the 4472 AWD was stuck in. Then the propshaft and driveshaft no longer fit.
mattw said:
Actually yes, I have two S10 driveshafts but couldnt finish my drivetrain on the tyclone till I took a Typhoon driveshaft and fit it right in.
Mine is a 4x4 Jimmy and the 4x4 shaft fit until the 4472 AWD was stuck in. Then the propshaft and driveshaft no longer fit.
ShuggsRR
Donating Member
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
New list here
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?p=447561#post447561
New list here
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?p=447561#post447561
jjorgensen52
NHSTE - I'm the only one!
Re: compatibility with standard s/T trucks
I knew that, I just wasn't specific enough :roll:
ShuggsRR said:
I knew that, I just wasn't specific enough :roll: