Chariots With Fire?

Seti

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Did anyone catch Road & Tracks Nov. 06 issue with the super SUV shoot out? They had the Porsche Cayenne Turbo, Cherokee SRT8, BMW X5, Tahoo SS, Infinity X45 and that supercharged Land Rover. The new Cayenne Turbo S and Benz M63 AMG weren't available for testing yet.

So anyway it was your basic performance appraisal on acceleration, slolom, braking etc. They talked about the increasing demand for more performance and all that but not once did they mention the SUV that started this craze. I have an issue of Muscle Machines from a few months back that did similar comparison but with pick up trucks and they did a better job giving the history of performance pick up's. They gave the performance specs and all that just like R&T but they remembered to give credit where it's damned well due by listing the Syclone as the once and still reigning king of performance pick up's. That same issue went on to do a piece on the Malboro Syclone's too.

The R&T article was still a good read though. The SRT8 blew them all away to 60 and through the quarter but that was the only one that put down times better than what the Ty's listed 13 years ago. The Cayenne Turbo was right there with the Ty through 60 and the quarter but it's also listed at 90K before tax. The rest of the SUV's in the test are lambs to the slaughter though and all of them save for the Tahoe SS were in the 60K range. The Tahoe and Cherokee SRT8 were 30K and 39K respectively.

The owner of my company drives a Cayenne Turbo, I think I'll go try and goat him into a race.

S.
 

Try Me

New member
Re: Chariots With Fire?

thats pretty cool. remember though, if it werent for the amc corp building the original cherokee there may have never been an suv or a ty ;)
 

GM TURBO

Sell Out
Re: Chariots With Fire?

Trailblazer SS. Tahoe SS. What's the difference? ;)

I did find it an interesting article. There are things a Ty does better than an SS. There are things the SS does better than a Ty.

Just to play devil's advocate...anytime a performance car article is written do they give props to the Model T?
 

swoop

under contruction...
Re: Chariots With Fire?

Just curious, what did they mention as the SS's 1/4 mile time? Last I saw in a test they posted 14 flat in C&D, then I went to atco 2 weeks later and saw them running low 13s all night. Although I've noticed R&T is less biased towards american cars than motor trend and car and driver
 

Seti

Member
Re: Chariots With Fire?

swoop said:
Just curious, what did they mention as the SS's 1/4 mile time? Last I saw in a test they posted 14 flat in C&D, then I went to atco 2 weeks later and saw them running low 13s all night. Although I've noticed R&T is less biased towards american cars than motor trend and car and driver

They quoted 14.3 @ 97.6 for the SS. They railed on it the worst for being a poor handler in comparison to the others and for being the only one with rear drive only (AWD is an option) on the SS I guess.

S.
 

swoop

under contruction...
Re: Chariots With Fire?

Thats pretty lame, I dont understand how they are getting those numbers with a truck that has 400hp.
 

jbone

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Re: Chariots With Fire?

swoop said:
Just curious, what did they mention as the SS's 1/4 mile time? Last I saw in a test they posted 14 flat in C&D, then I went to atco 2 weeks later and saw them running low 13s all night. Although I've noticed R&T is less biased towards american cars than motor trend and car and driver

I think ive read somewhere that removing the torque management especially in the awd TB SS gave them huge gains at the track, maybe thats why they were doing better then a lot of the magazines tests, but im not sure thats the reason. And actually I think theres a couple of bone stock Ty's that are still running 13.1's/13.2's today. Just remember regardless of what is out there today we dont need to defend or argue what our trucks did years ago and can still do today.
 

GM TURBO

Sell Out
Re: Chariots With Fire?

The one thing I found funny about the article - one writer was talking about how easy it was to get the back end of the SS to step out and I'm guessing another was saying any time he tried he could only get the inner wheel to spin???

I've seen two 100% Stock AWDs running a 13.8-13.9. Most are 14.1-14.8. RWD trucks are about .3 quicker. Calibrations (removing tq management, timing, fueling) are netting about .4. An AWD TBSS with driver and fuel is close to 5000#. There is a modded RWD SS that just went 11.4 @ 12x.

How many 100% stock Typhoons are running a 13.1? I've never seen one.
 

Junior1

NASTE Member
Re: Chariots With Fire?

:squint:
13.45 here...in well over 80 degree heat with 90% humidity in the dead of August in the middle of the afternoon
 

jbone

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Re: Chariots With Fire?

it was either 13.1 or 13.2 and pretty recent I think morgan made mention of who it was. and actually I think it was in a thread with a similar topic as this.
 
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