Changing ATF

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Ok, so I really need to change my AT fluid.
A little background: I have a very messed up truck, previous owner was cheap moron, etc. If you've seen the thread about my t-case you already got the idea. :) Fluid in t-case was not ATF, but some brown stuff I couldn't recognize, pic here. I was afraid that it went to AT through the seals, but fluid on the dipstick and inside tranny casing (when I removed the TC) was more or less clear and somewhat pink. Its winter now, and tranny started to behave very badly when cold - it won't shift 1-2 until 3-4 seconds of 3000+ rpm, and shifts were very hard. It got better after warm-up, and then worked completely okay (with normal operating temperature). ATF level was a bit high according to dipstick, so I decided to drain it a bit (I have a drain bolt there), and see if it helps.

Now check out what's was inside:
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I assume that unknown brown oil from the t-case eventually did find its way to AT. I couldn't leave the truck at the garage at the moment, so I drained the pan (about 6 quarts came out), and filled tranny with fresh Dexron III. So about half of the fluid is changed now, and tranny performs better then ever (no cold shift issues whatsoever). But I want to flush all this $hit out.

What should I do? I was thinking of disconnecting AT cooler hose (I have aftermarket ATF cooler), putting its output line to ATF canister, and starting the engine. AT pump should suck new fluid in there, and push old one out. Then I'll drain the pan and change the filter. Can I mess something by doing this? Is there a better way?

I'm aware of possible slipping issues afterwards, but my truck doesn't have a turbo yet, so this shouldn't be a big problem. But I don't want it to suddenly die. :(
 

Norm

Donating Member
Re: Changing ATF

I've seen them do it that way at some shops. Just make sure you don't run it out of fluid that is going into the trans.Dropping the pan is the best way, that way you can see what's in the bottum of it. Make sure there's a flat magnet ther also to grab the small metal shavings.
 

spooldup

Super Member
Re: Changing ATF

Wow thats not good. I service my transmission with seafoam transtune and then motorvac the entire trans until both lines equalize in color wich is around 21 qts for my ty's. I also add a bottle of lubeguard as well to the flush. If you can locate someone in your area with the machine it will make your life alot easier.
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: Changing ATF

I can take it to the shop, but do I really need to? AT can pump the fluid herself. I'd like to do it on my own, I don't trust shops around here. Last year one of those let me out of their facility without any brake fluid in MC, I as lucky not to thrash Ty or anyone else.
 

spooldup

Super Member
Re: Changing ATF

There is little or no suction on the return line. The line returns the fluid to the pan that is under pressure from the supply or pump side. The machine has a pump in it that matches the pressure of the vehicles pump to transfer the fluid properly back into the pan.

The machine does an excellent job. Here is my expedition that i serviced the day. She took 26qts before both lines equalized. If you are having issues with the trans i would have it done.

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bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: Changing ATF

There is little or no suction on the return line. The line returns the fluid to the pan that is under pressure from the supply or pump side. The machine has a pump in it that matches the pressure of the vehicles pump to transfer the fluid properly back into the pan.

I see now. That's a good point.
Will cost me extra bucks though. :tdown:
 
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