Carbon fiber tailgate

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

Is there any type of price being thrown around yet? I mean Im broke but for the rigtht price anythings possible.
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

Boostedpimp said:
Is there any type of price being thrown around yet? I mean Im broke but for the rigtht price anythings possible.

Still trying to get a solid buy number to help me judge the minimum price for the initial time and investment. I mean so far we've only got a handful of comittments . It requires several panels built and sold before the costs for tooling has been met as pointed out earlier in the thread. I'd love to give them away just to put smiles on everyones faces but, as you know.......everyones time has to count for something.
I can better nail down a more solid price once we get some team involvement showing up. So the Lurkers might want to quit " thinking" and chime in if they are considering seeing this come to fruition at all.

We've had over 1000 views on this thread..............are you thinking these are just repeatuous views ??? :(

Raist103.......I already counted you in for a Ty smoothie from the earlier post. :tup:

Lets get a move on Gents...........there are other CF SY/TY parts we need to get too !So lets CONCENTRATE on this and move on. I'm real beat/tired....don't mean to sound bossy ;)
.............Vinny :cool:
 

JSM

Active member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

If you are looking for people to committ before hand you won't find it here nor on most automotive sites. People like to see pictures first, hear what others say, etc.

I have tried to get feedback before diving into a project before and always get minimal. After project is done, and available then you find out if it was good or not.

With that said I think there is a market. Price will depend on how many sell, as well as quality, customer service, etc.

Chicken or egg. You want to build stuff but want XX people committed, people want to see parts before committing.

I think this could be an excellent product. So if you want to go forward you must do it with some risk you will get your money and time invested back. Done right and reasonable price (thinking $350-400 range is a good final cost) it is worth your time.

The investment won't come back over night either though, so price things accordingly.

For example I have several months, and a large amount invested in the 4l80e conversion parts. At best, ignoring my time I currently am even at this point. In the long term i should come out ahead.

On the flip side, if you looking to make big $$'s here. You are better to invest in something else. Honda's etc. You gotta develop and offer products due to your passion for the trucks not to gain profits and retire early. (unless you know something I don't)
 

Jimmy

Banned
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

JS Manufacturing said:
If you are looking for people to committ before hand you won't find it here nor on most automotive sites. People like to see pictures first, hear what others say, etc.

I have tried to get feedback before diving into a project before and always get minimal. After project is done, and available then you find out if it was good or not.

With that said I think there is a market. Price will depend on how many sell, as well as quality, customer service, etc.

Chicken or egg. You want to build stuff but want XX people committed, people want to see parts before committing.

I think this could be an excellent product. So if you want to go forward you must do it with some risk you will get your money and time invested back. Done right and reasonable price (thinking $350-400 range is a good final cost) it is worth your time.

The investment won't come back over night either though, so price things accordingly.

For example I have several months, and a large amount invested in the 4l80e conversion parts. At best, ignoring my time I currently am even at this point. In the long term i should come out ahead.

On the flip side, if you looking to make big $$'s here. You are better to invest in something else. Honda's etc. You gotta develop and offer products due to your passion for the trucks not to gain profits and retire early. (unless you know something I don't)
:stupid:

1 stock Ty gate here if it's <$500
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

JS Manufacturing said:
If you are looking for people to committ before hand you won't find it here nor on most automotive sites. People like to see pictures first, hear what others say, etc.

I have tried to get feedback before diving into a project before and always get minimal. After project is done, and available then you find out if it was good or not.

With that said I think there is a market. Price will depend on how many sell, as well as quality, customer service, etc.

Chicken or egg. You want to build stuff but want XX people committed, people want to see parts before committing.

I think this could be an excellent product. So if you want to go forward you must do it with some risk you will get your money and time invested back. Done right and reasonable price (thinking $350-400 range is a good final cost) it is worth your time.

The investment won't come back over night either though, so price things accordingly.

For example I have several months, and a large amount invested in the 4l80e conversion parts. At best, ignoring my time I currently am even at this point. In the long term i should come out ahead.

On the flip side, if you looking to make big $$'s here. You are better to invest in something else. Honda's etc. You gotta develop and offer products due to your passion for the trucks not to gain profits and retire early. (unless you know something I don't)

Perfectly understandable to me. I have no reputation here with this forum family for them to base any real decisions from other than gut feeling. I'll design and build my Infusion molds for my needs first and post pix for those still interested later. This way the money I front and the time and consumables I utilize will at the least get modeled on my Syclone .
I'm not in the least surprised by the hesitation from everyone here about this type of subject, as I lurked for some time and watched their excitement get let down for whatever reasons. Life does this to the every man sometimes.The Lord knows I understand this.
Going at this type of project alone with no real understanding of needs will most likely force my finances to aim at a larger market exposure to keep it afloat. I hate this.....but I , just like you , need to be smart about where I invest time and out of pocket.
My passions drive my quality and motivate me through the difficulties, not whether or not I choose to loose out on a gamble.
But seeing is believing, and I live in the "Show me state".....lol.....so I'll go forth with the mold that will take care of my needs first, naturally and post up some pix at that time . This is VERY time consuming tooling and R&D is expensive so please don't be angry with me if I move on to markets which are more secure.If I find after tooling up and building my gate that the labor and materials is above your price comfort levels....its obviously not going to pan out for the ramped up efforts.
...............I just proofread what I have typed here and it comes across a little "self absorbed".....I certainly don't mean for it too. I like being on this forum and the general quality of folk who lurk here. I tend to lean on the serious regarding efforts. I'll lighten up when its not my watch.............. ;)
Wish me luck !!
later guys.....................Vinny :cool:
 

Jimmy

Banned
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

CarbonFiber AWD said:
Perfectly understandable to me. I have no reputation here with this forum family for them to base any real decisions from other than gut feeling. I'll design and build my Infusion molds for my needs first and post pix for those still interested later. This way the money I front and the time and consumables I utilize will at the least get modeled on my Syclone .
I'm not in the least surprised by the hesitation from everyone here about this type of subject, as I lurked for some time and watched their excitement get let down for whatever reasons. Life does this to the every man sometimes.The Lord knows I understand this.
Going at this type of project alone with no real understanding of needs will most likely force my finances to aim at a larger market exposure to keep it afloat. I hate this.....but I , just like you , need to be smart about where I invest time and out of pocket.
My passions drive my quality and motivate me through the difficulties, not whether or not I choose to loose out on a gamble.
But seeing is believing, and I live in the "Show me state".....lol.....so I'll go forth with the mold that will take care of my needs first, naturally and post up some pix at that time . This is VERY time consuming tooling and R&D is expensive so please don't be angry with me if I move on to markets which are more secure.If I find after tooling up and building my gate that the labor and materials is above your price comfort levels....its obviously not going to pan out for the ramped up efforts.
...............I just proofread what I have typed here and it comes across a little "self absorbed".....I certainly don't mean for it too. I like being on this forum and the general quality of folk who lurk here. I tend to lean on the serious regarding efforts. I'll lighten up when its not my watch.............. ;)
Wish me luck !!
later guys.....................Vinny :cool:
Good luck,have fun,drive home safely.
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

Jimmy said:
Good luck,have fun,drive home safely.

.................O.....K ?? :squint:

Ya' know, I'm not bailing on you guys here ? its simply a matter of where does one offer up his or her time ? Wouldn't you want your time responsibly used ? No one wants to waste time when it can be better used . And it appears too "wishy washy" of a vote for further consideration. I'm not sure just how much financial extension one has to provide before your convinced of whatever it is your looking for, but I've spent a couple of grand alone on an extra set of cladding for no other purpose than to build CF molds from for Infusion. The Ty tailgate I purchased yesturday is towards the plug steps for the mold.
If there is no support for a group type buy.......I have to do this leaning more towards a Ebay bussiness thing. Which would allow a higher per part recoup on investment. Not quite as cozy a venture I'll admit.
Perhaps I really would have been better recieved if I hadn't missed the last four Nationals in K.C. which is just above me here in Missouri.I'll certainly try harder to be there next year.
.................Jimmy ? ....I had you down for a stock Ty gate, was your response a cancel indicator ....or am I thick ?lol.
..............Vinny :cool:
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

Jimmy said:
Yes I will take one if it comes to fruition.

..........very good ! I guess I'll keep posting here as any progress is made ?Maybe we'll luck into more posters chiming in ! :tup:
....................Vinny :cool:
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

MRKING said:
If you build it , they will come ....

Hahahaa.........I sure hope so, or I'll be screwed :( . as in "Space....the final frontier"....the area inside my wallet ! :lol:
..........Vinny :cool:
 

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

CarbonFiber AWD said:
Hahahaa.........I sure hope so, or I'll be screwed :( . as in "Space....the final frontier"....the area inside my wallet ! :lol:
..........Vinny :cool:

This is a standard s10 - s15 peace so if you make an x amount of them.. and don't happen to sell your complete stock of them thru syty.net. Then Im sure you could move them to easly in the s10 and s15 market so why not produce the x amount of them and get a few out there for people to see what there like which im sure would help with your business?

If this has been discussed already then im sorry, I didn't read the entire thread.
 

Merk

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

I think its a good idea....one less thing to rust on a truck
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

Boostedpimp said:
This is a standard s10 - s15 peace so if you make an x amount of them.. and don't happen to sell your complete stock of them thru syty.net. Then Im sure you could move them to easly in the s10 and s15 market so why not produce the x amount of them and get a few out there for people to see what there like which im sure would help with your business?

If this has been discussed already then im sorry, I didn't read the entire thread.

Well thats basically the plan due to the quiet interests. i'm a realist and I rarely buy an item for hundreds of dollars without having seen it or heard good reports about the componet,just as the rest of you do too !
As I was speaking to a vendor earlier, I mentioned that Ebay and the K.C. Natl's would be a perfect format to get the ball rolling and perhaps establish a market bearing price for them as well.
I live just below K.C. and have always wanted to attend the Nat's.
I'll see what I can pull together this Fall and Winter towards this and I'll keep in mind those that have spoken up on this thread that would still wish for the parts to come and treat them right .
If I'm lucky..I'll even have all of my cladding finished along with a few other light CF parts....vented fenders,hood,toneu what ?? ;) .............................Vinny :cool:
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

I say the biggest weight reduction parts would be the doors, hood, and front fenders with cladding molded in. you make those,do it well, and I think you could retire
 

CarbonFiber AWD

Donating Member
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

jwaller said:
I say the biggest weight reduction parts would be the doors, hood, and front fenders with cladding molded in. you make those,do it well, and I think you could retire

Well THERE"S some ideas,hmmmmmmm. But on the molded in cladding.........if the CF cladding was damaged, you'd have to replace the whole thing as apposed to just the flare ?
Retail thats fine, but to the end user........ :squint:
Do you really think there will be enough all out race builds out there to garner the work ?? Doors etc? Thats a tough one to figure.
Doing a vented hood with an air scoop that ACTUALLY looks right with our trucks is in the works. Voting on this type of thing is futile as I've seen already. So ...making one for my truck is the way to start. At least I'll be able to test bed it and have images available. Cowls have been covered as have been a few other retro/domestic styles. I'll try something unique but not Gawdy or Riced.
I really just want subtle design changes incorparating function ! :tup:
Vinny :cool:
 

Timbo

SyTy Stalker
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

There have been a couple of one-offs made of fenders with molded-in cladding. Personally, I doubt there's enough of a market for something like that to make it worthwhile from a sales standpoint.
 

Syborg Twin Turbo

Syborg Twin Turbo
Re: Carbon fiber tailgate

here is a couple pics of one of those one-off carbon parts. He also has a carbon tailgate skin, but i forgot to take a pictures.

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