Buyers Beware of Race Proven Motors

[v6 with a twist]

Becareful dealing with this company. I recently had 2 incidents, having to do with parts that dont fit. Also, I was never told that the vortec heads had to be modified. I had to remove them agian in order to have the holes drilled for the intake. Cost: $300 with the new head gaskets. Mind you upon asking them if any modifcation needed to be performed prior to my purchase. I was told the only modification needed is the intake. When i called them to complain I was told that you bought stock heads instead of our $2500 heads, we are sorry. Sorry dosent give me back my $300+mylabor their response "were sorry (your screwed)." I just wanted everyone to know about my experience, so hopefully this wont happen with anyone else.

 

[warmpancakes]

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sorry you had bad dealings with mike, but 5 seconds of work you would have read that vortecs are not a direct bolt on, they do require modification. Believe me there are few true bolt ons in the performance world.

 

[tyndago]

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Becareful dealing with this company. I recently had 2 incidents, having to do with parts that dont fit. Also, I was never told that the vortec heads had to be modified. I had to remove them agian in order to have the holes drilled for the intake. Cost: $300 with the new head gaskets. Mind you upon asking them if any modifcation needed to be performed prior to my purchase. I.

So you asked what needed to be modified. He told you the intake needed to be modified, and you didnt modifiy the intake ?

Are you from the generation that doesnt realize the intake is not the air filter - its the manifold that distributes air to the heads ?

Sounds just like a misunderstanding on your end to me. I would say that the vortec intake modification is very well documented.

 

[92Ty#1524]

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No offense, but its common knowledge for those who have been around the community for any length of time that the Vortec conversion requires a considerable amount of pricy machine work and welding to make it all come together. I would expect to pay $800 plus parts before its all said and done. Its the only reason I have yet to do it. I dont know what transpired between you and RPM but aside from an obvious miscommunication, perhaps there was an assumption that you had already researched it and knew what you were up against. In this case, you'll find the site's SEARCH tool very handy. If you're sore that you feel that you lost $300, um....get over it. Its a drop in the bucket when it comes to these trucks especially if you're modifying them. Plan on spending thousands. So if a couple hundred bucks is a problem, sell the truck.

Speaking for myself and probably many people out here, I have no beef with RPM. Ive been dealing with them for years. There aren't many places you can go for parts and support for these trucks from people who actually have a clue and own them themselves. I understand that you had a bad experience but I encourage you to keep that in mind before you attempt to slam them on this site. I'd like to think that there was a more appropirate, private and diplomatic way to fix your problem. In other words, dont burn a bridge. You may have to crawl back later and ask them for help.

Best of luck with your mod...on your own.

 

[JayLo]

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Are you from the generation that doesnt realize the intake is not the air filter - its the manifold that distributes air to the heads ?

 

[dgoodhue]

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It is common knowledge that vortecs head have a different intake pattern than the stock heads. It sounds like you didn't do enough research or ask the proper questions before installation (or maybe a misunderstanding or assumption of knowledge by the vendor).

I don't anything is going to good is going to come out of this thread :lock:

 

[100in6]

v6withatwist and mike at raceproven

v6withatwist and mike at raceproven

first of all, i'm not tryin to fan the flames on a locked topic. everyone knows me here and i used to be a moderator so you all pretty well know i wouldn't do that. just wanted to make a suggestion to twist.

sorry you had a bad experience with mike. he is one of the smart guys here and usually very nice. regarding your heads, if you don't want to put the time and money involved in making them work, i'm pretty sure you could list them on the for sale topic here and either get all or part of your money back. maybe you'll lose some shipping but you'll get back some. they are a very popular conversion. if you search here you'll find out a lot about doing them.

if you aren't sure about doing somethin with you truck, try using the search or just post a topic and you'll get so much help you won't believe it. most people here are very nice and will see you are pretty much a newcomer to the board and some guys will bend over backwards to try to help you, including mike as a matter of fact. email me and i'll keep you going straight if you want.

again, list em for sale and i'm sure you can unload them and get most of your money bac,. better still... hang on to them till you save a little more and can afford to get the rest done and but those suckers on we'll all help you with advice when you decide to do it.

just be nice. i'm sure mike or anyone else didn't do anything on purpose. probably just thought you knew the bolt pattern is different because it's been talked about on here about a jillion times

les

please guys...no responses to this topic. moderator can lock it again please.

 

[v6 with a twist]

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I realized that thier is a differnce between stock heads and vortec's. However, I could not find any information on the heads other than the modification to the intake. When i spoke to mike at rpm i specifically asked him about modification to the intake, would it bolt up to the heads with NO other work to be performe.I was told specifically three times by mike and by his co-workers that the intake is the only modification that needed to be done. Its not just the money, its the mis information i have recieved from a so called repuable source. I do not apprecaite being misled as a customer. I understand that alot of ppl deal with rpm and seem to be satisified thier transactions, I on the otherhand for some reason was misled in this case. I will no longer associate myself with rpm. All wanted to do is to relate my experience to the board. I understand that people make mistakes. This is the second time in a week that I was misled by them. At rpm all i got is, Im sorry.

Thank you everyone for your attention I will keep you updated with my results, this board has been greatly appreciated by me.

 

[dgoodhue]

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I merged Les's comments and V6 with a twist response.

 

[ghettosled]

Setting the record straight "Buyers Beware of Race Proven Motors. "

Setting the record straight "Buyers Beware of Race Proven Motors. "

Customers who try to put a package together on their own take on the responsibilty of making it work. We do offer a competitively priced bolt on package for those who want a hassle free install. For the do-it yourselfers we even highlight some of the steps right here:

http://www.raceprovenmotors.com/cart/product_info.php?cPath=21_131&products_id=50

With hundreds of orders shipping each week, we are not able to look back at a customers purchase history for each order, or keep tabs on each customers build whether it be syty, race or stock replacement. You were not misinformed by the staff at Race Proven Motors. You asked us what needed to be done to the intake manifold, and sent us a letter with your core intake saying "modify this intake for vortec heads", which is exactly what we did. Was RPM supposed to read your mind that the core heads you purchased back in March were left untouched for a syty application and assembled on your motor? Trying to convince the community that we mislead you on what needs to be done to the vortec heads would be like saying we told you to use regular SBC rods on your stock crankshaft.

Now on a more personal level you called and spoke (actually yelled at) me on Friday. Just as i was finally able to get a word in and start to explain what you have failed to understand, you hung up on me in mid sentence. Instead of blowing you off, i called you back and left a message offering to assist you. You chose not to call back and instead decided to make us look bad. So have you really accomplished anything?

For all of those who supported us in the previous thread, we thank you. We do realize it is impossible to please everyone, but considering how many customers actually appreciate what we have done throughout the years, a couple disgruntled customers is just a speedbump. The website is there to offer convinience, competitive pricing and parts specific shopping 24/7. There are more then one way to build a syty and we try to accomidate everyone with a wide selection of parts. Obviously some go together and some dont. It is up to you to research this or call on the phone and buy a complete package.

 

[SYO237]

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Ok.


Both parties have spoken, this topic is DONE.

Any further problems should be resolved privately or off the board.


Thanks.