Auto tuning

JSM

JSM

Active member
Sorry guys, can't get over all the cool stuff we are adding.

Just successful test/confirmation done on a new excel spreadsheet I created for the new chip. One of the problems with the larger VE table is now you have 512 data points. Using old techniques to manual adjust each cell is hard to impossible.

So some custom tools to the rescue. We now have a spreadsheet that takes the CSV export from tunerpro and anaylizes the desired AFR table -vs- Actual AFR table. (assuming open loop). It then rounds, averages, filters data to come up with a new corrected VE table, which you paste back into the chip and run again. Idea is the more you re run the closer the VE table will become.

The first test Paul drove ~50 miles and dumped that data in. It spit out new VE table, which he ran and noticed much improvement.

I have another guy playing and so far he is having success also.

Sorry I keep rubbing these new tools in everybody's nose but I can't resist how exciting some of these new tools are for us.
 
MRKING

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: Auto tuning

JS Manufacturing said:
Sorry I keep rubbing these new tools in everybody's nose but I can't resist how exciting some of these new tools are for us.
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When , when , when do we get to play in your reindeer games ??
 
Daron

Daron

Active member
Re: Auto tuning

JS Manufacturing said:
Sorry guys, can't get over all the cool stuff we are adding.

Just successful test/confirmation done on a new excel spreadsheet I created for the new chip. One of the problems with the larger VE table is now you have 512 data points. Using old techniques to manual adjust each cell is hard to impossible.

So some custom tools to the rescue. We now have a spreadsheet that takes the CSV export from tunerpro and anaylizes the desired AFR table -vs- Actual AFR table. (assuming open loop). It then rounds, averages, filters data to come up with a new corrected VE table, which you paste back into the chip and run again. Idea is the more you re run the closer the VE table will become.

The first test Paul drove ~50 miles and dumped that data in. It spit out new VE table, which he ran and noticed much improvement.

I have another guy playing and so far he is having success also.

Sorry I keep rubbing these new tools in everybody's nose but I can't resist how exciting some of these new tools are for us.
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Yay! I need auto tuning!
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
Re: Auto tuning

TYTILIDIE said:
Im wondering what the cost will be.
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Part of the release of this chip will be the fact it is GIVEN away. We do request in return and will expose any calibration done via this chip to be shared.

Basically we have done a lot of hard work on it, plan to give it away and don't want other to profit from our volunteer work. We do want everybody to have well tuned vehicles though.
 
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MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Auto tuning

i bet i could automate the running/cutting/pasting so that its more real-time and less user-interaction
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
Re: Auto tuning

MikeRenz said:
i bet i could automate the running/cutting/pasting so that its more real-time and less user-interaction
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Once the format is set, we may talk.

We are heading that direction already. :lol:
 
skwayb

skwayb

NWSTP
Re: Auto tuning

Yah we just need to get everything ironed out in the ADS file before putting it out there. There are some fields I may end up removing before the release since we don't need them anymore (calculated 3 bar from 1 bar, calculated 2 bar from 1 bar, etc.) So we will need to change the sheet to make sure it matches. But otherwise this is working out awesome.
 
qbnkiller

qbnkiller

Conflaguration Specialist
Re: Auto tuning

this is sounding very very nice....I gotta say thanks. It is because of enthusiasts like you guys that make ours enjoyable.
 
TYTILIDIE

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Auto tuning

JS Manufacturing said:
Part of the release of this chip will be the fact it is GIVEN away. We do request in return and will expose any calibration done via this chip to be shared.

Basically we have done a lot of hard work on it, plan to give it away and don't want other to profit from our volunteer work. We do want everybody to have well tuned vehicles though.
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O...K....I guess I cant comprehend this being FREE. Ild feel bad taking one for free, Ild have to buy something else from ya atleast. Is there a catch or am I reading this wrong?
 
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2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: Auto tuning

TYTILIDIE said:
O...K....I guess I cant comprehend this being FREE. Ild feel bad taking one for free, Ild have to buy something else from ya atleast. Is there a catch or am I reading this wrong?
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No catch......

well maybe a catch....if you use this to make money, then we will do everything in our power to make sure you don't make money on it anymore. All they are asking is that when you do a tune with the new "software" that you post that tune, and offer it for FREE to others with similar combos. If you attempt to sell a chip with this software, it will eventually be found, and the cal will be posted to the public, thus elminating your ability to make money with it.
 
TYTILIDIE

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Auto tuning

2kwik4u said:
No catch......

well maybe a catch....if you use this to make money, then we will do everything in our power to make sure you don't make money on it anymore. All they are asking is that when you do a tune with the new "software" that you post that tune, and offer it for FREE to others with similar combos. If you attempt to sell a chip with this software, it will eventually be found, and the cal will be posted to the public, thus elminating your ability to make money with it.
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I wouldnt be out to sell it. Never even thoguht of it. Sounds like a spiffy plan to me. I am curious though, what, besides the chip itself, will we need to know or what parts will we need to acquire before usage?
 
QUICK STORM

QUICK STORM

B.A.M.F. BMW Tech
Re: Auto tuning

TYTILIDIE said:
I wouldnt be out to sell it. Never even thoguht of it. Sounds like a spiffy plan to me. I am curious though, what, besides the chip itself, will we need to know or what parts will we need to acquire before usage?
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ditto, i'm curious as well. i just want to say a big thanks to the guys making this happen:tup:
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
Re: Auto tuning

I too would like to thank all you guys who are involved in this project in advance.. this has the looks of something great. with that said.. what all will we need to harness this new found power?
 
skwayb

skwayb

NWSTP
Re: Auto tuning

Currently you will need the following at a minimum hardware/software wise to run it yourself

Chip Burner
ALDL Cable
TunerPro RT
WideBand O2 Controller (Hooked into the ECM for logging and WBo2 Fuel Control)

That is it. Optimally you would also have an emulator that is supported by TunerPro RT. (Autoprom, Ostrich or Prominator) It would make tuning in real time and making changes to the chips easier before you burn it.

That will give you the base tools needed to make logs for the autotune.xls and make the changes to the chip. You will probably have to do the logs and chip burning many times to get it close to being dialed in. Autotune should get you close to 85% there. The rest will be up to you so you will still need to know the basics of tuning.
 
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