First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
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Nova67ss
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Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
After years of the fumes and smell of race gas I can tell U this truck does´nt smell at all now, and yes its breakin loose wheeerrryyy easilly even on low bost..
Robert calculated the power at 15 psi to be realy close to what was before on 25 psi so
YES its gona be a funny, fast and funky season..
I still guess the NEW SY record to be down the 8,7X lvl or lower.
Think for a sec, the 8,98 record is almost 2 years old, and only one Sy been realy close to "get it" again and thats Roberts "Bad A$$"
Hoover sold and the new ovner have´nt run anny nrs yet (or not showed anny? )..
Ed Hess is just some 0.10 away to a realy low 9 but these last´s 0.10 are hard to erase. despite those impressive burn outs and smoke..
So I recond that the new record (and it WILL come this season) will stand for a werry long period of time..
After years of the fumes and smell of race gas I can tell U this truck does´nt smell at all now, and yes its breakin loose wheeerrryyy easilly even on low bost..
Robert calculated the power at 15 psi to be realy close to what was before on 25 psi so
YES its gona be a funny, fast and funky season..
I still guess the NEW SY record to be down the 8,7X lvl or lower.
Think for a sec, the 8,98 record is almost 2 years old, and only one Sy been realy close to "get it" again and thats Roberts "Bad A$$"
Hoover sold and the new ovner have´nt run anny nrs yet (or not showed anny? )..
Ed Hess is just some 0.10 away to a realy low 9 but these last´s 0.10 are hard to erase. despite those impressive burn outs and smoke..
So I recond that the new record (and it WILL come this season) will stand for a werry long period of time..
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Any chance we can hear some E85 tuning tips? Surely that information would be applicable to any SyTy no matter how fast. :tup: With the crash of the US Dollar, our gas prices are near all time high and switching to cheap E85 sounds very attractive.
Any chance we can hear some E85 tuning tips? Surely that information would be applicable to any SyTy no matter how fast. :tup: With the crash of the US Dollar, our gas prices are near all time high and switching to cheap E85 sounds very attractive.
ViciousV6
400HP/550FTLB
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Tooky,
E85 here on the east coast is $3.99 gal. That is surely not cheap. If you look at any car that is made both ways Fuel economy is 10-15 miles per gal less than gasoline.
E85 is only a cleaner burning fuel, not any better of a product to run for benefit, except better than running race gas @ 11.25 gal.
Ralph
Tooky said:
Tooky,
E85 here on the east coast is $3.99 gal. That is surely not cheap. If you look at any car that is made both ways Fuel economy is 10-15 miles per gal less than gasoline.
E85 is only a cleaner burning fuel, not any better of a product to run for benefit, except better than running race gas @ 11.25 gal.
Ralph
Tooky
Serious about performance
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Ralph, here in the midwest E85 averages 2.56 (http://e85prices.com/wisconsin.html). Maybe the US gov't is subsidizing our farmers or whatever - I'm not sure.
There are more benefits to E85 than what you have listed. Since it is alcohol it has tremendous cooling effects that race gas does not. It also is unleaded (to the best of my knowledge) so it doesn't eat a costly Wideband O2 sensor or plug up the cat for those who have emissions testing.
And finally to anyone with a real street truck on an average joe's budget, $10-13/gal race gas isn't even an option to consider for the street. E85 is something you can legally pump into the tank during a cruise (without having to watch over your shoulder, HeHeHe.. :lol: )
ViciousV6 said:
Ralph, here in the midwest E85 averages 2.56 (http://e85prices.com/wisconsin.html). Maybe the US gov't is subsidizing our farmers or whatever - I'm not sure.
There are more benefits to E85 than what you have listed. Since it is alcohol it has tremendous cooling effects that race gas does not. It also is unleaded (to the best of my knowledge) so it doesn't eat a costly Wideband O2 sensor or plug up the cat for those who have emissions testing.
And finally to anyone with a real street truck on an average joe's budget, $10-13/gal race gas isn't even an option to consider for the street. E85 is something you can legally pump into the tank during a cruise (without having to watch over your shoulder, HeHeHe.. :lol: )
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Nova67ss
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Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
The most problem on giving tuning tips is the nrs off different computer controllers, XFI, Big stuff, Fast, Orginal, chipped orginal, and U name a brand
Then U have the enviroment compensation that is to recon with. Are U living in a warmer aeria than sweden the tune is not up to spec for U and so on.
All I can say, watching Robert and his magic tuch is U have to pay attension to the coldstart and idle mixture.. and the tip in..othervice a good computersystem have the "change fuel parameters" allready in the system
So its up to U to tune and tune again for U´r place, driving needs and parts..
Tooky said:
The most problem on giving tuning tips is the nrs off different computer controllers, XFI, Big stuff, Fast, Orginal, chipped orginal, and U name a brand
Then U have the enviroment compensation that is to recon with. Are U living in a warmer aeria than sweden the tune is not up to spec for U and so on.
All I can say, watching Robert and his magic tuch is U have to pay attension to the coldstart and idle mixture.. and the tip in..othervice a good computersystem have the "change fuel parameters" allready in the system
So its up to U to tune and tune again for U´r place, driving needs and parts..
TYTILIDIE
METH HEAD
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Check out this thread, Erue says it likes a lot of timing. http://phpbb2.turbotimelounge.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1144 Best I can do but I have read that thread several times and because of it, E85 is on my list of to do's.
Tooky said:
Check out this thread, Erue says it likes a lot of timing. http://phpbb2.turbotimelounge.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1144 Best I can do but I have read that thread several times and because of it, E85 is on my list of to do's.
Nova67ss
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Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Specialy U who lives in heated aerias would benefit tremendous from E85, the cooling aid from this fuel is great.
But be careful of "kommon knowledge" about E85 and real info, lots of dis info out on Inet thats been taken for "trush" and not just what it is... speculations and not whell dokumented facts..
Specialy U who lives in heated aerias would benefit tremendous from E85, the cooling aid from this fuel is great.
But be careful of "kommon knowledge" about E85 and real info, lots of dis info out on Inet thats been taken for "trush" and not just what it is... speculations and not whell dokumented facts..
420
Broke Ass Racing
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
I know the #1 thing that scares me is the fact that there are actually three different blends of E85, with lessening amounts of Ethanol in them, all of which are sold under the name "E85". The variations are to help cold start problems that tend to occur in the colder months up north. Apparently, the more gas in the blend, the easier it starts when cold out. The problem is, when the stations change the blend they sell, they are not required to notify the consumer.
This means that if you get aggressive with a tune set up for "real" E85 (85% Ethanol / 15% Gas), and fill the tank with a lesser variant... bad things could happen.
I know the #1 thing that scares me is the fact that there are actually three different blends of E85, with lessening amounts of Ethanol in them, all of which are sold under the name "E85". The variations are to help cold start problems that tend to occur in the colder months up north. Apparently, the more gas in the blend, the easier it starts when cold out. The problem is, when the stations change the blend they sell, they are not required to notify the consumer.
This means that if you get aggressive with a tune set up for "real" E85 (85% Ethanol / 15% Gas), and fill the tank with a lesser variant... bad things could happen.
brock1949
Its alive!!!
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
I talked to John Meany yesterday asking him about e85 tunning on my big stuff, he has a E85 fireware or configuration out but he is releasing a E85 kit in a couple months. It will actually have sensor(s) and harness etc that will read the amount of alky in the fuel and adjust real time. That way if you run out of E85 and can only get pump gas you just fill it up and it adjust for that.
Also said they had a stock ls1 with pt67 pull 840HP and 900+ft lbs on E85 for over 50-60 pulls with no signs of problems. Told me e85 will change everything.
I talked to John Meany yesterday asking him about e85 tunning on my big stuff, he has a E85 fireware or configuration out but he is releasing a E85 kit in a couple months. It will actually have sensor(s) and harness etc that will read the amount of alky in the fuel and adjust real time. That way if you run out of E85 and can only get pump gas you just fill it up and it adjust for that.
Also said they had a stock ls1 with pt67 pull 840HP and 900+ft lbs on E85 for over 50-60 pulls with no signs of problems. Told me e85 will change everything.
420
Broke Ass Racing
Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
He is right. It most certainly will, at least from a performance standpoint. Just think about the new ZR1 tuned out for E85
I've also heard about the "flex fuel" addition for the stand alones. It would solve lots of problems, but I've heard it is $$$$$.
brock1949 said:
He is right. It most certainly will, at least from a performance standpoint. Just think about the new ZR1 tuned out for E85
I've also heard about the "flex fuel" addition for the stand alones. It would solve lots of problems, but I've heard it is $$$$$.
Nova67ss
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Re: First Test On E85 ( Bad Ass Syclone)
Right about the "winter blend" on E85, its E75 but goes under the E85 sign BUT the 75 is not the % of blend on the amount of alky the real deal is around 80% theres so lithle differance to get the engine easyer to start specialy in cold klimat like Sweden...
Must tell U, we had a rainy and green X-mas and new year lots of warm wheather just to get cought with almost 2 feetof snow and some low freeze nights at eastern holliday´s.. caos in traffic, lots of fender bender and injuryd people and more to come.. global warming??? maybee but more a shift in season for warm and cold wheather??
Right about the "winter blend" on E85, its E75 but goes under the E85 sign BUT the 75 is not the % of blend on the amount of alky the real deal is around 80% theres so lithle differance to get the engine easyer to start specialy in cold klimat like Sweden...
Must tell U, we had a rainy and green X-mas and new year lots of warm wheather just to get cought with almost 2 feetof snow and some low freeze nights at eastern holliday´s.. caos in traffic, lots of fender bender and injuryd people
and more to come.. global warming??? maybee but more a shift in season for warm and cold wheather??