I was wondering what you guys might think the range is on respraying a Syclone? I know you get what you pay for, I've had several cars spayed before, just was thinking in this economy, taking it to a decent shop with complete prep work, what you guys thought the price may range from or if someone had their sy\ty repainted recently. Also want to do the cladding.
New Paint Job on a Syclone
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hardtailcfl
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
My Ty just came home from the paint shop...I had it 90% prepped and a pretty good friend do the work so it was a fraction of the normal cost. We used Sikkens paint and it's all white. I was talking with the owner of the shop and he said someone off the street who came in with a Ty for a complete repaint price would be around $6-8k but thats for all prep work, body work if needed, materials, and labor. A little steep in my opinion but once you think about all the cladding (14 pieces with bumpers) and the fact that doors, tailgate, and hood should come off it really is a lot of work
Only thing I didn't remove was the rear side glass and paint turned out great.
Another thing to consider is a lot of shops don't like to spray pre-prepped vehicles. No matter how good it is they are afraid they will have to re-do work or there will be complaints at the end over workmanship that they had no control over :2cents:
My Ty just came home from the paint shop...I had it 90% prepped and a pretty good friend do the work so it was a fraction of the normal cost. We used Sikkens paint and it's all white. I was talking with the owner of the shop and he said someone off the street who came in with a Ty for a complete repaint price would be around $6-8k but thats for all prep work, body work if needed, materials, and labor. A little steep in my opinion but once you think about all the cladding (14 pieces with bumpers) and the fact that doors, tailgate, and hood should come off it really is a lot of work
Only thing I didn't remove was the rear side glass and paint turned out great. Another thing to consider is a lot of shops don't like to spray pre-prepped vehicles. No matter how good it is they are afraid they will have to re-do work or there will be complaints at the end over workmanship that they had no control over :2cents:
NJ93TY
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
I have a Ty but I had mine done for a little over 4K. I would think a SY would be slightly cheaper. I can tell you what shop painted mine if your interested. I removed all the cladding, door handles, locks etc. I also had them replace the L/F fender, fix a big dent in the R/S door and install a new windshield. If you remove the cladding make sure they are carefull with it. I had some extra pieces of cladding I wanted painted and they ended up throwing one fender cladding out and breaking tabs on the other. Dumb asses.
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After... like a mirror
I have a Ty but I had mine done for a little over 4K. I would think a SY would be slightly cheaper. I can tell you what shop painted mine if your interested. I removed all the cladding, door handles, locks etc. I also had them replace the L/F fender, fix a big dent in the R/S door and install a new windshield. If you remove the cladding make sure they are carefull with it. I had some extra pieces of cladding I wanted painted and they ended up throwing one fender cladding out and breaking tabs on the other. Dumb asses.
Before...
After... like a mirror
Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
Went to 2 shops today, both are well known in my area and do very very good work. One of the shops was doing a Bentley and a complete spray down on a GT3. Anyways, the one shop quoted me 2800.00 and the other one was somewhere between 2500-3500. All depending on how much work they have to once the cladding comes off. I told the more expensive shop that I would be shopping around and that I can pay cash instead of cc or check and he said he would work with me. He also said he'd spray an extra front bumper for me and do both the stock hood and cowl hood. I think 2750.00 is a fair price? any thoughts.
Went to 2 shops today, both are well known in my area and do very very good work. One of the shops was doing a Bentley and a complete spray down on a GT3. Anyways, the one shop quoted me 2800.00 and the other one was somewhere between 2500-3500. All depending on how much work they have to once the cladding comes off. I told the more expensive shop that I would be shopping around and that I can pay cash instead of cc or check and he said he would work with me. He also said he'd spray an extra front bumper for me and do both the stock hood and cowl hood. I think 2750.00 is a fair price? any thoughts.
warmpancakes
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
2750 is cheap, are they de trimming the truck, and removing the glass, for a complete re spray NON color change around here is 6 minimum that includes removing glass and a minor cut and buff you want perfect show quality figure 10k, for 2750.00 id be willing to bet thats a single stage paint
2750 is cheap, are they de trimming the truck, and removing the glass, for a complete re spray NON color change around here is 6 minimum that includes removing glass and a minor cut and buff you want perfect show quality figure 10k, for 2750.00 id be willing to bet thats a single stage paint
Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
2 stage, base and clear coat. he showed me an acura that they just did that was in black that looked pretty good, although there was a ton of wax on it and where in process of buffing it out. I would have to remove all cladding prior and the windshield is getting replaced so they said when they are done they will call and I will pay out of pocket for that. All weather stripping is on my dime as well, don't know what they are going to charge me for that. Basically he said he just needs to keep his guys busy, been very very slow. I got the recommendation from my bmw salesman, they do all the work for the dealer and the guy said he was taking care of me. I didn't get the impression at all that they do shitty work or that the guy was going to do a shit job. warmpancakes, what do you think all the extras will run me if he comes in around 3k?
2 stage, base and clear coat. he showed me an acura that they just did that was in black that looked pretty good, although there was a ton of wax on it and where in process of buffing it out. I would have to remove all cladding prior and the windshield is getting replaced so they said when they are done they will call and I will pay out of pocket for that. All weather stripping is on my dime as well, don't know what they are going to charge me for that. Basically he said he just needs to keep his guys busy, been very very slow. I got the recommendation from my bmw salesman, they do all the work for the dealer and the guy said he was taking care of me. I didn't get the impression at all that they do shitty work or that the guy was going to do a shit job. warmpancakes, what do you think all the extras will run me if he comes in around 3k?
warmpancakes
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
have them remove the windshield before paint, the more you remove the better the job, staying the same color? if yes pull the cladding, grille, all lights all glass and weather striping, handles, antenna, basically the more you take off the better the job
have them remove the windshield before paint, the more you remove the better the job, staying the same color? if yes pull the cladding, grille, all lights all glass and weather striping, handles, antenna, basically the more you take off the better the job
DaveP
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
Your truck is going to spend 4-12 weeks in an incredibly dirty and crappy environment. The scuzz gets everywhere. If you remove the glass, you should remove the entire interior as well. If you don't, you'll wish you had when you get it back.
There's no way an interior stays nice in a body shop environment with the glass out. With the W/S out, the instrument panel should be removed also. There's no way to keep the wet-sanding water, or body-shop dust and over-spray out of the interior with the glass out. I have a junker steering column that I install during the body/paint work so it can be driven around the shop by sitting on a bucket, and don't worry about body-shop scuzz.
You are now talking about 50-75 hours, or more, of work for disassembly and reassembly of cladding, trim and interior including the inst panel.
This guy is asking about a 2500-3500 paint job, I assume "all-in". He doesn't have the budget, or I presume, the desire, to do a show-perfect paint job. If he's not changing the color, and the jambs are use-able, leave the glass and interior in. The door window outside weatherstrip can have a piece of clothesline inserted behind it, to lift it off the paint, and can be masked. The 1/4 windows can be masked. Back-tape the jambs to keep overspray out of there, and the results will be fine.
I agree with removing the windshield. There is always rust and 'problems' in this area on a S-series, especially if the W/S has been previously replaced. Just have to be careful about keeping the interior clean while the W/S is out.
It's easy to suggest (and to want) to remove as much as possible. If you've never done it, it is one Hell of a lot of work to take a SyTy completely apart for paint. Even more to put it back togeather. (I've done 3, and don't plan to ever do another!) I suppose that explains why so many of the Trucks on this board are in boxes. It's a formidable task, that a lot of Owners seem to never get around to completing.
Limit your involvement to removeing the cladding. Then trust the body shop to give you the best value for your money. They probably know how to please you better than you do.
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Dave
Your truck is going to spend 4-12 weeks in an incredibly dirty and crappy environment. The scuzz gets everywhere. If you remove the glass, you should remove the entire interior as well. If you don't, you'll wish you had when you get it back.
There's no way an interior stays nice in a body shop environment with the glass out. With the W/S out, the instrument panel should be removed also. There's no way to keep the wet-sanding water, or body-shop dust and over-spray out of the interior with the glass out. I have a junker steering column that I install during the body/paint work so it can be driven around the shop by sitting on a bucket, and don't worry about body-shop scuzz.
You are now talking about 50-75 hours, or more, of work for disassembly and reassembly of cladding, trim and interior including the inst panel.
This guy is asking about a 2500-3500 paint job, I assume "all-in". He doesn't have the budget, or I presume, the desire, to do a show-perfect paint job. If he's not changing the color, and the jambs are use-able, leave the glass and interior in. The door window outside weatherstrip can have a piece of clothesline inserted behind it, to lift it off the paint, and can be masked. The 1/4 windows can be masked. Back-tape the jambs to keep overspray out of there, and the results will be fine.
I agree with removing the windshield. There is always rust and 'problems' in this area on a S-series, especially if the W/S has been previously replaced. Just have to be careful about keeping the interior clean while the W/S is out.
It's easy to suggest (and to want) to remove as much as possible. If you've never done it, it is one Hell of a lot of work to take a SyTy completely apart for paint. Even more to put it back togeather. (I've done 3, and don't plan to ever do another!) I suppose that explains why so many of the Trucks on this board are in boxes. It's a formidable task, that a lot of Owners seem to never get around to completing.
Limit your involvement to removeing the cladding. Then trust the body shop to give you the best value for your money. They probably know how to please you better than you do.
:2cents:
Dave
bezerk
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
i had mine repainted for 1K just picked it up.
ofcourse i took the cladding off myselve.
also had a door with huge damage and a unpainted cowlhood.
looks pretty good, and for what i see you pay in the USA. they did a hell of a job!
waiting on the mirrors and door handles, since they didn't came out good, further the truck is back together!
will take some pics tomorrow after a wash
i had mine repainted for 1K
just picked it up.ofcourse i took the cladding off myselve.
also had a door with huge damage and a unpainted cowlhood.
looks pretty good, and for what i see you pay in the USA. they did a hell of a job!
waiting on the mirrors and door handles, since they didn't came out good, further the truck is back together!
will take some pics tomorrow after a wash
croscar
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
hurry up with the pictures :rotf:!!!
can't wait to have my Ty back from the painter :tup:
hurry up with the pictures :rotf:!!!
can't wait to have my Ty back from the painter :tup:
i had mine repainted for 1K
ofcourse i took the cladding off myselve.
also had a door with huge damage and a unpainted cowlhood.
looks pretty good, and for what i see you pay in the USA. they did a hell of a job!
waiting on the mirrors and door handles, since they didn't came out good, further the truck is back together!
will take some pics tomorrow after a wash
Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
Okay, just came back from shop and here are the numbers. They will be removing everything, doors, windshield, lights, ect. ect. They will be spraying 2 hoods (stock and cowl), 2 bumpers (spare) and 4 extra pieces of cladding (rockers and front fenders) plus fiberglass bed cover. There is not alot of nicks\dents in the car but wherever there is they will all be taken care of. Price for all the above is 6900.00, including putting all the cladding back on. I won't have to do anything. Time for finish is 7-8 weeks. Isn't that a long time?? I asked him if they were backed up and he said no, but wants to take time with the truck. Is that excessive?
Okay, just came back from shop and here are the numbers. They will be removing everything, doors, windshield, lights, ect. ect. They will be spraying 2 hoods (stock and cowl), 2 bumpers (spare) and 4 extra pieces of cladding (rockers and front fenders) plus fiberglass bed cover. There is not alot of nicks\dents in the car but wherever there is they will all be taken care of. Price for all the above is 6900.00, including putting all the cladding back on. I won't have to do anything. Time for finish is 7-8 weeks. Isn't that a long time?? I asked him if they were backed up and he said no, but wants to take time with the truck. Is that excessive?
DaveP
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Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
I'll bet the time slips to 4-6 months. But the price seems about right. Be careful about not getting "too far ahead". Be sure both of you understand the "payment vs progress" schedule. No way should you be 'in' more than 60% or so when everything is painted. There has to be a big enough balance due when the job is completed to satisfaction that the shop has incentive to finish the job, AND take care of any issues that come up at final inspection.
Don't pay more than you feel you've received at any point during the project. If he wants "half now to get started" say "NO. You have my Typhoon, why isn't that enough?" A written estimate, including as many details as you can both think of is a really good idea.
The #1 area of customer dissatisfaction in automotive repair is with paint and body shops. You can't be too careful, if you don't want to be disappointed.
I'll bet the time slips to 4-6 months. But the price seems about right. Be careful about not getting "too far ahead". Be sure both of you understand the "payment vs progress" schedule. No way should you be 'in' more than 60% or so when everything is painted. There has to be a big enough balance due when the job is completed to satisfaction that the shop has incentive to finish the job, AND take care of any issues that come up at final inspection.
Don't pay more than you feel you've received at any point during the project. If he wants "half now to get started" say "NO. You have my Typhoon, why isn't that enough?" A written estimate, including as many details as you can both think of is a really good idea.
The #1 area of customer dissatisfaction in automotive repair is with paint and body shops. You can't be too careful, if you don't want to be disappointed.
sy2675
He Saved the Pimp'n Game!
Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
mine cost about 8k total from this
to this
Windshield was not removed, all other glass was. I removed most everything myself, inside and out.
All-n-all, gone about 5 weeks total. But that was part of the agreement before being dropped off.
mine cost about 8k total from this
to this
Windshield was not removed, all other glass was. I removed most everything myself, inside and out.
All-n-all, gone about 5 weeks total. But that was part of the agreement before being dropped off.
DanenGraham
Big in the rear
Re: New Paint Job on a Syclone
sy2675 Saw your truck at Nats, and it looks so badass. It was funny because me and my friends were talking about filling the body line around the rear glass, and then i got to see what it would look like a few days later on your truck. I think you said the guy welded yours... We were just going to use the fine body fill stuff, but opted not to mess with it. Money Pit = FTW
I say the 6900 quote they gave you is spot on with them doing everything, it might be a little high. But less than 5 sounds to low for how much work our trucks have for tear down and rebuild. And DaveP has some really good tips about pay/progress in his post. I have paid 50-60% up front on some work i wanted done and the shop just let the truck sit for another 3 months, learned the hard way on that deal
Like JS posted paint/primer is going to be around 1K, hooked up mabey $500-600
Im looking at 1600-1800 total, I got hooked up on the prep/tear down $800. Got the paint, the person to paint it and a dealerships booth for $800, and might have 100-200 in primer. My truck has been a 2-3 year paint job, and that is fine with me if i can get great work for cheap. Know anyone that paints for a living? they can help out a lot. HOOK UPS get them
sy2675 Saw your truck at Nats, and it looks so badass. It was funny because me and my friends were talking about filling the body line around the rear glass, and then i got to see what it would look like a few days later on your truck. I think you said the guy welded yours... We were just going to use the fine body fill stuff, but opted not to mess with it. Money Pit = FTW
I say the 6900 quote they gave you is spot on with them doing everything, it might be a little high. But less than 5 sounds to low for how much work our trucks have for tear down and rebuild. And DaveP has some really good tips about pay/progress in his post. I have paid 50-60% up front on some work i wanted done and the shop just let the truck sit for another 3 months, learned the hard way on that deal
Like JS posted paint/primer is going to be around 1K, hooked up mabey $500-600
Im looking at 1600-1800 total, I got hooked up on the prep/tear down $800. Got the paint, the person to paint it and a dealerships booth for $800, and might have 100-200 in primer. My truck has been a 2-3 year paint job, and that is fine with me if i can get great work for cheap. Know anyone that paints for a living? they can help out a lot. HOOK UPS get them