V8 Sonoma GT
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V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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sadly with hitting WAY to many cones, my times were horrible, I even got beat by the Lightning
http://www.rmsolo.org/msp_eventpts_v2.php?rep=7_20130217WS
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
sadly with hitting WAY to many cones, my times were horrible, I even got beat by the Lightning
http://www.rmsolo.org/msp_eventpts_v2.php?rep=7_20130217WS
SYO237
SyTy Registry
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Cool, looked like a fun course.
Dont worry about beating others. Concentrate on driving and learning the truck and bettering your times on each run...then turn your focus on competition.
I like to mount the gopro in the truck so I can see myself driving. Was able see the mistakes I was making and learn from them.
Keep the vids coming, I like see everyone getting into autoX
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
Cool, looked like a fun course.
Dont worry about beating others. Concentrate on driving and learning the truck and bettering your times on each run...then turn your focus on competition.
I like to mount the gopro in the truck so I can see myself driving. Was able see the mistakes I was making and learn from them.
Keep the vids coming, I like see everyone getting into autoX
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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You get to walk the course, its not that big, sometimes people do forget which way to go.
Adam, had go pro on my helmet, which they failed for inspection, i do have 1 dashview, I'll post video later today
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
You get to walk the course, its not that big, sometimes people do forget which way to go.
Adam, had go pro on my helmet, which they failed for inspection, i do have 1 dashview, I'll post video later today
sytyguy
Moderated User
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Some tips (if you care to heed them).
- Look ahead more. Picking up cones is often a sign of setting up poorly for an obstacle, usually caused by not looking ahead. Road Racing and Autocross share one major aspect and that is the benefit of looking ahead. This gives you time to make adjustments before an obstacle instead of having it sneak up on you and you wind up reacting instead of preparing.
- Set up for the next obstacle with the one you're currently on. Very much an extension of looking ahead, but more specifically, you can make the entry to next obstacle far more strategic if you know how to exit the current one. Walking the course repeatedly REALLY helps here. A common problem with novice autocrossers is not entering the slalom on the correct side (which leads to correct exit). Your club didn't give the option for this by using directional cones, but if given the choice there would have been some benefit to trying the opposite entry sometimes.
- Don't look at the cones....see the corner itself. This was apparent in some of the corners where you were "hugging" the inner radius instead of setting up for the apex. Sadly, apexes can be hard to spot on an autoX course, but it's the visualization that helps with that. For instance, look at the exit of the first big left-hander (the decreasing radius one)....you had the right line at the fulcrum but stayed in a little too much on the last corner cones. That costed you a good 5-10 mph of exit speed (heading into the opposing directional cone gate), which really hurt because that led into one of the long speed sections of the course (this is where you want to capitalize on exit speed (think of Nascar coming off of turn 2 or 4, exit speed wins the race to the next turn).
- Try to read the slalom differently. I usually try to "hit" the cone with my back tire (not really hit, but imagining it that way). If you try to get close to the cone with the front tire, often times, you'll actually hit the cone with the back tire. Instead, try to get that same closeness to the cone, but with the back tire. Next time you're grocery shopping or mowing the grass, practice with the shopping cart or mower. It really helps to see the physics in action there.
- Brake smarter and get on the gas earlier. Overcooking the entry is all to common and can be easily fixed. Work on figuring out the braking zones while walking the course and be conservative on your first 1-2 runs. Delay the braking where it can be delayed (without compromising the line) and then focus on getting into the gas earlier on exit. I noticed a couple of times in the video where you could've accelerated sooner and possibly shaved some significant time off your run. But, it is hard to tell from the video.
All in all, you did quite good....and my advice is just advice.....I'm no pro. I've been racing for many years now, but I still learn a helluva lot every time I autocross. That'll never stop. :tup:
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
Some tips (if you care to heed them).
- Look ahead more. Picking up cones is often a sign of setting up poorly for an obstacle, usually caused by not looking ahead. Road Racing and Autocross share one major aspect and that is the benefit of looking ahead. This gives you time to make adjustments before an obstacle instead of having it sneak up on you and you wind up reacting instead of preparing.
- Set up for the next obstacle with the one you're currently on. Very much an extension of looking ahead, but more specifically, you can make the entry to next obstacle far more strategic if you know how to exit the current one. Walking the course repeatedly REALLY helps here. A common problem with novice autocrossers is not entering the slalom on the correct side (which leads to correct exit). Your club didn't give the option for this by using directional cones, but if given the choice there would have been some benefit to trying the opposite entry sometimes.
- Don't look at the cones....see the corner itself. This was apparent in some of the corners where you were "hugging" the inner radius instead of setting up for the apex. Sadly, apexes can be hard to spot on an autoX course, but it's the visualization that helps with that. For instance, look at the exit of the first big left-hander (the decreasing radius one)....you had the right line at the fulcrum but stayed in a little too much on the last corner cones. That costed you a good 5-10 mph of exit speed (heading into the opposing directional cone gate), which really hurt because that led into one of the long speed sections of the course (this is where you want to capitalize on exit speed (think of Nascar coming off of turn 2 or 4, exit speed wins the race to the next turn).
- Try to read the slalom differently. I usually try to "hit" the cone with my back tire (not really hit, but imagining it that way). If you try to get close to the cone with the front tire, often times, you'll actually hit the cone with the back tire. Instead, try to get that same closeness to the cone, but with the back tire. Next time you're grocery shopping or mowing the grass, practice with the shopping cart or mower. It really helps to see the physics in action there.
- Brake smarter and get on the gas earlier. Overcooking the entry is all to common and can be easily fixed. Work on figuring out the braking zones while walking the course and be conservative on your first 1-2 runs. Delay the braking where it can be delayed (without compromising the line) and then focus on getting into the gas earlier on exit. I noticed a couple of times in the video where you could've accelerated sooner and possibly shaved some significant time off your run. But, it is hard to tell from the video.
All in all, you did quite good....and my advice is just advice.....I'm no pro. I've been racing for many years now, but I still learn a helluva lot every time I autocross. That'll never stop. :tup:
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Thanks Hood, the shopping cart its a great idea...guess that means i have to volunteer to go to the grocery store...that's acceptable in the interest of racing..
Mike, I'll throw a course map up later, with a video from the ground, it will make a lot more sense
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Thanks Hood, the shopping cart its a great idea...guess that means i have to volunteer to go to the grocery store...that's acceptable in the interest of racing..
Mike, I'll throw a course map up later, with a video from the ground, it will make a lot more sense
sytyguy
Moderated User
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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The video you posted is fine. It shows the course (somewhat) as you saw it. Sometimes, that's the most helpful review tool.
5678TA
New member
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Ron, Glad to see you getting some use out of the Ty!! Dont think i ever squealed the tires on a turn.
You will probably benefit from a set of front-end limiters set to slightly over ride height. I used to take the windy road home back in Oregon and kept thinking how much it would help body roll if i put a set of limiters up front. Seeing as it sits with an inch of tire-fender gap and unloaded is like a 19 inch gap. haha
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Ron, Glad to see you getting some use out of the Ty!! Dont think i ever squealed the tires on a turn.
You will probably benefit from a set of front-end limiters set to slightly over ride height. I used to take the windy road home back in Oregon and kept thinking how much it would help body roll if i put a set of limiters up front. Seeing as it sits with an inch of tire-fender gap and unloaded is like a 19 inch gap. haha
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Sorry Hood, when I said Mike, i was referring to tytillidie...sorry for the confusion...didn't even think about the same names...
Hogan, great idea, I was also thinking smaller steering wheel, i really like the stock wheel, but it could help...
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Sorry Hood, when I said Mike, i was referring to tytillidie...sorry for the confusion...didn't even think about the same names...
Hogan, great idea, I was also thinking smaller steering wheel, i really like the stock wheel, but it could help...
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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killa66cam
RIDIN DIRTY
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Looks like fun. I am with several others though...I doubt I would know where the hell I was going. Hood recommends a smaller Grant as a very good upgrade! Nice tips Hood, though I still doubt they will help me.
Cam
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Looks like fun. I am with several others though...I doubt I would know where the hell I was going. Hood recommends a smaller Grant as a very good upgrade! Nice tips Hood, though I still doubt they will help me.
Cam
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
Video footage filmed from outside the truck
http://youtu.be/thLLEJKnzQg
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
Video footage filmed from outside the truck
http://youtu.be/thLLEJKnzQg
killa66cam
RIDIN DIRTY
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I like being able to see the track from the outside. It doesn't look as complicated as I thought it did from inside the truck. The wifey sounds like a keeper too. If she will go and film you, commentate, and sound hot doing it...KEEPER!!! Oh yea, and the lights look great! Much better quality in the video.
Cam
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I like being able to see the track from the outside. It doesn't look as complicated as I thought it did from inside the truck. The wifey sounds like a keeper too. If she will go and film you, commentate, and sound hot doing it...KEEPER!!! Oh yea, and the lights look great! Much better quality in the video.
Cam
V8 Sonoma GT
Mile High SyTy
Re: AutoX in Typhoon
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Haha, on all of that, i think so on lights too, wifey too, and figured it would be easier to see the course from that view...
Here is a funny side note, between her and i, we counted 7 different people we over heard say,"If its a real Typhoon..." Btw mine only says it on the glove box, and engine plate, but the hood was open whenever i was not racing, so...also had some dip $hit ask if it was rwd or fwd.
This video is the right fender view, little bit of boost noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmdWOsHEn8c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Haha, on all of that, i think so on lights too, wifey too, and figured it would be easier to see the course from that view...
Here is a funny side note, between her and i, we counted 7 different people we over heard say,"If its a real Typhoon..." Btw mine only says it on the glove box, and engine plate, but the hood was open whenever i was not racing, so...also had some dip $hit ask if it was rwd or fwd.
This video is the right fender view, little bit of boost noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmdWOsHEn8c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
