Tips for engine build-up installation?

byrdwe02 · Mar 13, 2006

I recently bought my second black 93 typhoon, after a six year departure. I never got over the typhoon and it is good to be back! However, the new typhoon was running extremely rough, and I decided to go ahead and get started on my first build-up, which is really just a few bolt-ons big and small (nothing internal). I did a lot of research before the purchases and compared what I read with the experience I had with my first typhoon. Then I assessed my financial status :tdown: and future plans for the ty and this is the initial combo that resulted. I know it has some flaws, but on my budget I felt this was the best mix for performance, while maintaining a healthy daily drivable engine and transmission (probably not so much for the trans., but this is where the budget came into play, and forced my dreams of 4l80's way down the line). In any event, I have the vehicle off the ground on jack stands in my carport and for the most part disassembled. I have been cleaning the upper intake and throttlebody (both are filthy...51,000 miles) and taking my time, but it is getting down to time to start the installation process. And I was hoping for some advice, tips, tricks, etc. Here is a list of the mods that are sitting in my room right now, waiting to be put on after I suck it up and buy a torque wrench and a crescent/flarenut wrench for the number 4 connector (PAS final assembly manual: section 12a, sheet 1) between the turbine and exhaust housing. Here is a list of the mods for which I hope to get any install tips you can think of! Here they are:

three bar map, blitz sbc i-color boost controller, 160 stat, johnson i/c pump, 255 walbro fuel pump, meziere 100 series electric water pump, allstar/ramcharger dual electric fans w/ harness, afpr, new fuel filter, egr delete, 50# injectors, 50# ultimate, pte-44 turbo, airfoil, full ATR exhaust (headers,dp, muffler), ATR external wastegate, borg-warner cap and rotor, and taylor 8mm spiro pro wires, powermaster 140 alt., ngk-ur6's, and most importantly tunerpro software.

I know I need to have 2 of the d/p flange bolt holes slotted. I want to relocate the battery for a cold air set-up using a cone with a short hose to the pte. What is the point of the round plastic vacuum tank that was under the battery tray? I was hoping to relocate the battery there. Another issue I haven't found an answer for yet is the new belt size, minus the water pump/fan pulley. Also, I am considering replacing the metal i/c lines.

Anyway, here are some pictures:

byrdwe02 · Mar 13, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up?

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I will post more pictures as I go. By the way, thanks for all the great posts and extremely helpful how-to's here and on syty authority and org., as well as the extremely thorough archives! Also, thanks in advance for any forthcoming help.

TSDuke · Mar 14, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up installation?

Bump this up!! I'm helping him with all the work, & would like to hear from someone who has done this work before. I work on my Corvette, but this is a different animal. I'm SURE that there are some tips that y'all can provide that will make the buildup go smooth.

Thanks,
Tucker

DynaGlide · Mar 14, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up installation?

I'll comment on what I know about:

-Thermostat: Should be pretty straight forward. Just like changing one out on a sbc. There is a tutorial on sytyarchives if you need one... I think.
-IC Pump: You might as well change to heater hose for the IC lines while you're changing the IC pump. There is a tutorial on sytyarchives.com for the pump change... I think.
-Fuel pump: PITA, but there is a tutorial on sytyarchives.com... I think. Don't eff up your sending unit... they're expensive. I took the opportunity to change to a polyethylene tank from http://www.mtscompany.com/chevy-gmc.htm part number 2200 at the bottom.
-Fan: The newest thing is the Volvo fans. Check the GP board for the mounting kit from SonomaGTLover. The kit comes with great instructions. The fans can be had still from kspiatt... I think.
-EGR delete: get your blockoff plate on eBay. There are some nice milled pieces on there that are definitely more attractive than the die-cut garbage that GM will sell you. Plus, the ones I've seen come with the gasket too.
-Turbo: Personally, I'd use a Garrett unit.
-Wastegate: Personally, I'd use a TiAL unit :tup:
-Airfoil: Simple enough to install. There are no documented gains for our application concerning this piece.
-Plugs: UR6s are a colder plug, and you might consider UR5s.

Hope this helps.

Sam

qbnkiller · Mar 14, 2006

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* I don't really know if I'd do the electric water pump...just do an Edelbrock unit. They are lighter, and very dependable.
* Do a custom 50# chip for your truck. Contact Nolan (turbov6@telusplanet.com). He has plenty of experience tuning our trucks.
* There are plenty of very nice choices for turbos out now. It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Waller has a custom 57-series turbo that looks nice. Turbotime.us has a nice stock replacement that has a bit more ooompf that is a drop-in. You could go pretty crazy here. The 44-series you have is a nice step-up from stock.
* The headers aren't really all that necessary...plenty of people have gone 10's here with the stock manifolds and crossover. The 3" downpipe is a good idea.
* Injectors...if you are going to be in the 450-500HP range, then the 50# injectors will do you fine. If you are going higher than that, then it's time for an ECM modification, and up to the 75#/85#/95#... injectors.
* Fuel pump that everyone uses is the Walbro 255LPH. Works real nice.
* Jabsco IC pump is a nice unit also. Nice performance and a great price.

The small round ball underneath your battery is the vacuum ball (oddly-enough). It provides the system with a little vacuum reserve...kinda like a vacuum canister. Replacing the metal IC lines with rubber lines is a good idea also. Look into changing ALL YOUR VACUUM LINES! Way important!

HTH

Alex

byrdwe02 · Mar 15, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up installation?

Thanks for the help Sam, really appreciate the help!

"-Thermostat: Should be pretty straight forward. Just like changing one out on a sbc. There is a tutorial on sytyarchives if you need one... I think.
-IC Pump: You might as well change to heater hose for the IC lines while you're changing the IC pump. There is a tutorial on sytyarchives.com for the pump change... I think."

The archives has already helped a lot, and I will definitely continue using the tutorials. Thanks!

"-Fuel pump: PITA, but there is a tutorial on sytyarchives.com... I think. Don't eff up your sending unit... they're expensive. I took the opportunity to change to a polyethylene tank from http://www.mtscompany.com/chevy-gmc.htm part number 2200 at the bottom."

Thanks for the recommendation! I called and priced the tank and will most likely purchase one at the end of the week. I really appreciate your help, thanks for taking the time.

-Evans

byrdwe02 · Mar 15, 2006

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Does anyone know the best tool and size to remove this connector? I am having tons of trouble because of my pathetic tool collection, and have already struck out on several guesstimate purchases.

byrdwe02 · Mar 15, 2006

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pm sent

qbnkiller said:
* I don't really know if I'd do the electric water pump...just do an Edelbrock unit. They are lighter, and very dependable.
* Do a custom 50# chip for your truck. Contact Nolan (turbov6@telusplanet.com). He has plenty of experience tuning our trucks.
* There are plenty of very nice choices for turbos out now. It all depends on what you want to do with the truck. Waller has a custom 57-series turbo that looks nice. Turbotime.us has a nice stock replacement that has a bit more ooompf that is a drop-in. You could go pretty crazy here. The 44-series you have is a nice step-up from stock.
* The headers aren't really all that necessary...plenty of people have gone 10's here with the stock manifolds and crossover. The 3" downpipe is a good idea.
* Injectors...if you are going to be in the 450-500HP range, then the 50# injectors will do you fine. If you are going higher than that, then it's time for an ECM modification, and up to the 75#/85#/95#... injectors.
* Fuel pump that everyone uses is the Walbro 255LPH. Works real nice.
* Jabsco IC pump is a nice unit also. Nice performance and a great price.

The small round ball underneath your battery is the vacuum ball (oddly-enough). It provides the system with a little vacuum reserve...kinda like a vacuum canister. Replacing the metal IC lines with rubber lines is a good idea also. Look into changing ALL YOUR VACUUM LINES! Way important!

HTH

Alex

Don W. · Mar 15, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up installation?

Some additional comments: Replace BOTH the tensioner and idler pulleys for the belt. (Careful, if I remember right the tensioner pulley bolt is left hand.) Definitely replace the IC lines with hose. More efficient (less heat transfer) and it makes it much easier to work on the top end because you can remove and set aside the IC without draining the coolant. I'd vote for the alum water pump also. I didn't see gauges mentioned so I'd recommend FP gauge and vac/boost at a minimum.
Have fun and get some tools.

#2875 · Mar 15, 2006

Re: Tips for engine build-up installation?

all good ideas but add a multiple spark ignition, pcv oil catch can and alky. your engine may last a few more miles.

oh yea and just in case nobody has told you the airfoil is a gay upgrade. waste of $$

byrdwe02 · Mar 15, 2006