Running At Idle

royalty

New member
Hello everyone,

I have a '93 TY, with a 20g turbo, 50lb injectors and a custom chip. I have been having issues with idle after warm up. Here is my issue: Once it warms up and is sitting at idle I notice it doesn't seem to quite run correctly. It'll bog down and then come back. I notice the needle on the battery gauge will also dip low and then come back once it evens itself out. The RPM's will go to 1 or below. It never dies, but seems to at times struggle to maintain a good idle with the way it bogs down and then back up.

It has become noticeable at a stop or stop-light as well. It does not do it all the time, but when it does it hesitates to accelerate for a split second before it'll go. (not always) Once again, it never dies though. If I run the heat or A/C it seems to bog down and do it more, once I turn them off it runs better, but will start again, just not a prominent as when they are on. I also have noticed that sometimes at night with the headlights on and coming to a slow and then accelerating the lights will go dim and then once I give it gas will come back brighter.

The air mixture will run 15.5 up to 16 or little more when it starts acting this way. Once I go it'll even out and run fine. It only does it at a stop or idle. Once moving and giving gas it does fine, or out on the road it has no issues. It also has no issues starting. Starts every time. I have replaced the battery, the fuel pressure regulator, ICV, spark plugs and gapped correctly and the cap and rotor, as well as cleaned the throttle body. I am confused as to why it could be doing this and perplexed as to why it only does it once it has warmed up or at a stop.

Any info or help on this would greatly be appreciated.

Thank you, all!
 

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
When your air/fuel mixture gets up to 16 is this while it is starting to die or is it when you step on the pedal to accelerate the afr gets to maybe 16 then tries to die?
 

royalty

New member
yes, it only goes high when it seems like it's going to die, then it'll settle back down and idle fine, then it will climb again and drop it repeats this but never dies. When I start to drive on the road it's fine but then when I come to a stop or stoplight it might do it again. Sometimes it's better than others on how the mixture gets.
 

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
If the mixture only changes as it is trying to die it is probably because of the engine acting like it is trying to shut down and that condition will effect the gauge reading. But if you were stepping on the throttle and the mixture got up to 16 this may indicate a lean mixture and could be lean enough to cause it to not run properly.
 

royalty

New member
What is the story on this truck as far as the engine goes? Rebuilt, unopened? Heads?
Pretty much stock other than the things I mentioned in the initial post with 3" stainless steel CAT back exhaust and 2600 stall torque converter.
 

IGottaSy

Active member
Which chip? Or who made it? 50lbs are difficult to dial in per what I've read. Depends on programmer possibly.
 
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IGottaSy

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I know it isn't cost effective but I would get a TT chip and 60lbs combo. Maybe, borrow from someone else? I really think that will fix it or help a bunch. I didn't go with 80lbs as those are also hard to dial in.

Hot wiring harnesses conduct lower voltages if you want to do some testing on the vital systems. Lack of good grounds will cause hot wires and the engines heat, if course.

Injectors are high or low impedance? Factory ECU needs high. If it was moded for low impedance, then that is also another possible issue.
 
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royalty

New member
I know it isn't cost effective but I would get a TT chip and 60lbs combo. Maybe, borrow from someone else? I really think that will fix it or help a bunch. I didn't go with 80lbs as those are also hard to dial in.

Hot wiring harnesses conduct lower voltages if you want to do some testing on the vital systems. Lack of good grounds will cause hot wires and the engines heat, if course.

Injectors are high or low impedance? Factory ECU needs high. If it was moded for low impedance, then that is also another possible issue.
Thanks IGottaSy for the information. All valuable things that hopefully will help.
 

gmemony2

Active member
Did you ever find out the issue with your idle? I have a similar problem I haven't been able to track down yet.
 

royalty

New member
Did you ever find out the issue with your idle? I have a similar problem I haven't been able to track down yet.
I ended up getting a TT Chip and 60lb stock injectors like Igottasy recommended, it helped out a bunch, enough so that it hasn't done it anymore( knock on wood) the only times it mimics that issue now is when the AC is running, but I attribute that to the load the AC puts on the engine and from what I've read from other members, it is fairly common and normal as long as it doesn't cause the engine to die.
 
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