Nitto Motivo- anybody with experience!

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crariley

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Pau Hana said:
I currently have GSCs (275/40 and 315/35) and love them. Problem- it rains in Seattle.

So, I've been researching an all season HP tire, and found these:

http://www.nittotire.com/passenger-tires/motivo-all-season-ultra-high-performance-tire/


Comments/reviews?
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I've never had the Motivos however I currently have the Nitto Invos on my Pontiac G8 and love them. Look good and grip good in dry and wet conditions. Not so good in the snow though, had to do that once. ONCE!
 
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Formula_1

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I also had them on a G8 that I sold earlier this year and loved them. They performed well whether it was wet or dry.

I actually looked at buying another set for the Ty, but I ended up getting a cheaper stock size tire because rotating was going to become a hassle.
 
Pau Hana

Pau Hana

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Re: Nitto Motivo- anybody with experience!

Good points, Dave- and appreciated. At the same time, weather up here is quite a bit different from SoCal (I grew up in Orange, and frequented the many street races all over the Southland, as well as Carlsbad, Terminal Island, and other tracks). The dry climate there is worlds away from the wet weather here. Down there, I'd run what I currently have year round and not even give it a second thought.

Tires in the 275/315 sizings with a decent treadwear rating and acceptable all weather performance (rain, winters that average mid 30° temps and the occasional light snow) is the goal, as the Ty is a daily driver. I think that the AWD will compensate somewhat for the higher TW rating vice a summer tire that is posing as an all season, and discussions like this are invaluable to me.
 
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Damian

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Tread wear ratings are a hard thing to figure out. 500 from say Nitto, is not the same as say BFG.
 
Pau Hana

Pau Hana

"But, officer........."
Re: Nitto Motivo- anybody with experience!

I think compound does affect wet weather performance, just as tread design and width do. Per the research thus far, the Motivo seems to have a good balance of compromise between the summer ultra-performance tire with its fantastic dry weather grip and the dedicated snow tire. Better siping and tread design is more key to wet weather performance than soft compounds, as you get more "bite" area to grip the road.

Don't get me wrong, I love the F1s currently on the Ty- they perform well, and I've had no issues with them. I'm looking ahead to the eventual replacements. Do I want to spend $2k on dedicated UHP tires, or get a decent set of driving tires and a set of track specific drag radials should I decide to track the beast?
 
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Damian

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Something to think about when buying "performance tires". Whenever you buy tires that are all season and a 60,000 mile warranty, they aren't going to be the softest tire out there. But I have read about these tires before and Nitto apparently did a good job with them.

I know a few people on here use the Summitomos and like them, I had a set on my old 05 GTO and I hated them. With that being said, I'd give these a shot when I eventually get a set of ZR1 wheels.
 
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crariley

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DaveP said:
Possibly. You're right, TW numbers are only a "guide" to predicting certain aspects of a tire's performance.

I first began to pay attention to TW number in 1993 when the OEM tires on my new 93 Blazer were so detrimental to my enjoyment and driving experience of that particular vehicle. They had a TW of 700, lasted 70,000 miles, and I was totally pissed at myself for putting up with them for that long after I fitted some Goodyear GT+4's that had a 340 rating. The difference was such that I wish I had taken them off the day after I took delivery. The OEM Uniroyals were that bad in comparison.

In the ensuing 20 years I've owned 15 different vehicles, and purchased probably 20 sets of tires. I've paid close attention to TW numbers, the performance, and my perception of enjoyment and satisfaction. I'm very comfortable with how I've "figured out" how to use TW numbers, regardless of manufacturer, to receive the best compromise of tire characteristics that meet my expectations and requirements. That number, for me, is 320-340. Particularly with Goodrich, as that is my most frequently purchased make.

That's all. Take it or leave it. I don't make recommendations, I relate my experience, which is substantial. If anyone even read it, which I doubt.
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When you put your thoughts, I'm reading them.:tup:
 
ziembic

ziembic

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Re: Nitto Motivo- anybody with experience!

DaveP said:
Possibly. You're right, TW numbers are only a "guide" to predicting certain aspects of a tire's performance.

I first began to pay attention to TW number in 1993 when the OEM tires on my new 93 Blazer were so detrimental to my enjoyment and driving experience of that particular vehicle. They had a TW of 700, lasted 70,000 miles, and I was totally pissed at myself for putting up with them for that long after I fitted some Goodyear GT+4's that had a 340 rating. The difference was such that I wish I had taken them off the day after I took delivery. The OEM Uniroyals were that bad in comparison.
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I had a similar experience with my Subaru. When I bought the car, it had the stock Bridgestone Potenza RE070 tires on it. I drove the car for 15k miles with them on it. I thought that they were runflat tires they were so hard. The ride was terrible, the noise was ridiculous. Fortunately, a buddy of mine had bought an 04 model of the same car, and piled miles on it pretty quickly. I took a ride in his car, and ordered new tires the next day. Threw those tires out with 30 or 40 percent tread life left in them, didn't look back.

The funny thing: these had a TW rating of 140. The theory was that these tires had such a hard sidewall, that it caused all of the problems. They had excellent traction in the very dry and smooth roads with emphasis on the smooth road part. Any sort of chatter, and they would lose traction. Awful selection for a street car.
 
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