'92 Typhoon in Siberia

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Hi guys,

Finally my account is approved, many thanks to phoonTy guy I met it chat. Admins here are really paranoid :)

My name is Dmitry, I live in Novosibirsk (it is geographical center of Russia), and I bought black '92 Typhoon (#0725) few months ago (the price was smth. like $4500). Honestly, I didn't even know that these awd trucks with turbo ever existed back then. I was hoping to find some good Grand Cherokee (ZJ one, I love old stuff :)) or another US truck or SUV. I've been searching through bulletin boards for a couple of months, but without any luck (mostly, people sell crap :(). Then I started to search in other cities, and found my black buddy in Tyumen', solid 750 miles from home. I made a call, the seller said that it's mostly okay but some scratches, broken cladding, no turbo ;), "a little worn" :rotf: suspension and some other glitches. The odometer reading was 70000 miles. He also exchanged stock wheels for "great 17"s from BMW7!!!!". What a dummy :rant:
30 minutes of Google and I'm ready to go :D Actually, it took me almost a week to decide, I've been searching for places to buy parts, checking will I have any problems with it, and so on. I also had to persuade my girlfriend (bride, actually), which wasn't easy at all. You know, 20 year old black ugly brick isn't as pretty as orange Honda Prelude I had back then, and this is very important for the ladies! Anyway, I finally transferred some advance payment to the seller, and got onto train to Tyumen'.
Typhoon was brutally awesome! It had some really nasty problems with the body (it was hit in the drivers' side, and body shop didn't put very much effort to fix it), but as far as I could tell there was no bad rust, only some small areas on the surface. Left front cladding piece was torn off (in the trunk), and right front piece was broken in half, with one half forever missing. "You know, these wheels are pretty big, so they torn these off while I was turning". :rant: Of course, dummy! You shouldn't put 225/60R17 wheels with 20 offset to a place where 245/50R16 with 41 offset should be! Left rear bumper piece was also badly damaged. :(
Interior was very dirty, but the leather was in perfect condition with no holes, scratches or whatsoever. Carpet was also fine, and so very every other panel inside. Hazard light button was broken (it worked anyway), turn switch was also damaged (also operational), but except for these glitches and lack of some plactic covers on the seats mechanisms the interior was very, very good. There was even a stock Delco radio!
Suspension wasn't in a best shape. Shocks were dead, rear right one was missing. Front propshaft was removed (it was back in the trunk). This really pissed me off, because I don't buy their usual "this is for fuel economy!" crap. I thought of $300 for transfer case chain if I get lucky, and another $500 for viscous coupling if I don't. That was pretty much, but I loved Ty already, so I just wanted to save him from previous owners.
The engine was running smooth. Turbo was removed, and exhaust was shortcuted, so it worked like normally aspirated engine with MPI.
So, Ty had solid body and great interior - you can't fix these for cheap if there's big problem. Everything else was bad, but I didn't care anymore. So we finished with the money and docs, I went to insurance agent, and then departed back to Novosibirsk.

I'll tell you about the trip later.

Now for some pics:
This is near my garage, already at Novosibirsk.


There was a turbo.

Engine compartment. The red tubes are from german Geiger shop, I think that's where it was between the States and Russia. I also assume that's where the turbo was removed, as there is only 196 hp in the customs documents. In will save me $1200 in taxes every year! :)


A2A intercooler. Well, it was.
 
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epix

Typhoon
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Welcome to the site! What are your plans with the Typhoon?

I believe we have another Russian member also here on the site who is from Moscow, his screen name is "Flint"
 
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

In Mother Russia, Typhoon drives you!

Welcome man! What are your plans as far as the turbo and AWD? Gunna try to fix it? Looks damn good though for being as old as it is, body looks to be in damn good condition.
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Thanks guys!

My plan is to make it a good daily driver for me and for my future wife (she has her own Mazda, but Ty is awesome and I'm sure she'd want to borrow it sometimes).
I'll fix a turbo, but it's the last thing I wanna do. Basically, now I'm going to improve basic ride comfort, therefore I already bought new rear glass hinges (that squeaking sound drove me NUTS when I was driving this thing home!), door hinges repair kit and new turn switch lever. Then basic engine stuff like ignition wiring, next part is a suspension and steering. Next one is to repair the transfer case, I hope it's just a chain. Need to do the torque wrench test.
Then I'll deal with the body - it requires some bodyshopping and painting. Then goes the 700r4 (or maybe sooner, if it fails :)), and then the turbo.

The thing is, the truck is 18 years old. It looks like 18 yeas old which is fine, but it also feels like 18 year old, and this is the thing I'm going to fix.

The body isn't actually that good, it's just a picture. Here are some more (I already bought stock rims for $700, there even were some badly worn Blizzaks with them. I was really lucky to find these wheels here in Russia, although they are very beaten and not exactly round. yet :)):
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There's only minor rust on the surface.
There we go!
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Doors are fine.:)
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[IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"http:\/\/bonesdmz.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/14.jpg"}[/IMG2]And the driver side - pretty bad. There was a hit, which is covered with a thick layer of surfacer. You can see the cracks, and some rusty metal underneath. I assume I will have a lot of fun with this later.

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Anyway, generally the body is very much okay. I almost drooled when I looked under the carpet under driver's feet - there's still glossy black factory paint without any signs of wear.
 
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bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

And yeah, I forgot about the towing package that was installed in the back! They had to badly cut rear bumper cladding to do it :( You can't exactly see the damage from behind, but anyway, this is not the way to treat Ty cladding. Morons.
Funny thing is that towing hook was the only place to easily fix a towing rope. And the same day I removed the hook and whole thing from the truck I ran out of road and got badly stuck in the mud. :) We had to use leaf spring bracket to pull Ty out.

750 mile trip from seller's place to Novosibirsk was exhausting. Truck managed to easily run at 60-70 mph, but steering was very loose, so I had to always be alert. Next thing is that it has very loud exhaust (there are some strange pipes underneath, looking more like old water pipes to me, with holes and cracks. No catalytic converter, but with stock muffler. Thank god :)), and its roar was kinda tiring. And the last one - that squeaks from rear window! After first 3 hours I thought I'd kill myself :)
The brakes were more or less okay, although brake pads were worn to the metal.
One of the gremlins the seller told me about was some bug with fuel level gauge. When it shows some 40% of the tank the fuel is already gone. I was aware of that, but drained the tank anyway and had to pull over. Since I had 50 liter canister of gas in the trunk (along with a funnel) this should not be a problem. Nope, it was :D The funnel was too thick to fit in the tank hose, and 50 liters are too heavy to easily operate with, so I couldn't just hold the funnel with one hand and the canister with another. I was lucky to find empty plastic bottle of ATF. I spent next 20 minutes transferring the fuel to bottle (and half the volume was simply spilled on the ground :)), and then to the tank. Repeat, repeat, repeat.
And guess what? Tank drained again, I didn't tried hard enough. Had to repeat, but this time is was raining.

Some hours later I really wished for the whole thing to be just a nightmare, so I could just wake up at home and forget about it. Dark night with new moon, I'm in the middle of nowhere, and suddenly engine just died. Lights were very weak, engine didn't cranked a bit. It seemed like the generator is long since gone, engine and lights ate all the battery, and I'm stuck there with a useless piece of crap. Here I have to mention that I didn't take any tool with me, except for flashlight. Any! What an idiot.:roll: I started to jerk everything under the hood, and finally it worked. The problem was with loose battery terminal wires. Ufff.

After the trip I did the math and found out that Ty ate fuel like a damn horse - 17l/100km on a highway isn't a very good sign. More on that later.
 
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WyoSyclone

Active member
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Wow, I admire your willingness to save this one! Welcome to the site. I can't imagine living in Siberia and doing all the work that will be required! I'll give you two big :tup::tup: for your attitude and desire to get it back in shape.
 

sytyguy

Moderated User
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

We do a lot of international shipping, so if you need anything parts-wise, just LMK and I'll do what I can.

Good luck!
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Sweet man. Good to see your account activated. :tup:

And awesome job on saving that truck. Can't wait to see it when you're done with it. It never ceases to amaze me to see where Typhoons ended up. :lol:
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

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Thanks again everyone! You are lucky to live in US - there's loads of cheap parts. If you think rebuilt bw4472 for $1000 with $350 core deposit is expensive, try to add $15 for each kilogram for airfreight to Russia and think again :) You can use cheaper cargo container shipping, but it could easily take 2 month. Bummer.

Another major problem with old american SUVs in Russia - problems with documents. For example, in mid-90s, over 70% of ZJ mopars had some kind of "problems" with the docs. It could be forged VIN-plate (if the car was ever stolen), customs problems (if a car never passed customs it's basically a junk, you'll never get licence plates legally. You can run it through customs, though, but customs fee for such an old vehicle with such an engine will be some kinda 35000$. No kidding!) and so on. The reason is - it was the best "mob car" back then, and criminals loved them. Other SUVs have less problems, but they could be.

This is the reason I didn't buy any parts in a first 45 days - I tried to get a licence plates first, so I wouldn't waste my money if there is be a problem. And there really was a problem - some kinda differences in various VIN databases or something. It took more that a month to fix this, but now I officially have licence plates. Uff.

All this time truck ran fine, but idle run became worse, and there was often "Check engine" problem with MAP sensor error on cold mornings. Also, starter solenoid started to fail sometimes.

Now, for parts I already bought.
At first, I got some headlights (you can find them on the pics above). Worst $60 I ever spent, had to reinstall the old ones. I'll be smarter next time!
Now I also have '93 Typhoon factory service supplement manual ('92s are twice as expensive, I dunno why), Chilton's manual for basic repairs, and new gas lifts for rear window. No, I don't know why they were missing :)
This week I expect the package with new distributor cap and rotor, ignition wires, turn switch lever, door hinge kit and new rear windows hinges.
In a couple of weeks I expect another package with 4 ball joints, control arm bushings, pitman arm, idler arm, 4 tie rod ends, starter solenoid, stock MAP sensor, and some other stuff. All suspension parts are Moogs.
All these are from the States. You can buy them here, too, but sometimes its more expensive, and it is also said that US Moog lasts 3 times longer than the one we can buy here.
 
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Ty 1885

New member
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Welcome fello Camrade. I see you want MORE torture than just living in Siberia! You will need to sell ALOT of ( ICE ) ;) to keep TY running good.:rotf::tup::roll::rant::oops:;):p:squint::lol::myclone::myclone::2cents::tup:


Good luck and keep us posted..
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

This forum is some holy grail of info! Now I need to find some jeep shafts :D

BTW, can anyone advise me when it's okay to start posting in "Member's projects" forum for a noob?
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Welcome!! I am impressed with your English. Hope to see this Ty turn in to something someday. In my honest opinion, TURBO FIRST!!!:lol:
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Welcome!! I am impressed with your English. Hope to see this Ty turn in to something someday. In my honest opinion, TURBO FIRST!!!:lol:
Thanks!
No, turbo will be the pinnacle of the project. Ty's kinda hard to drive now, so with more power to rear wheels I'll quickly crash it :) The winter is coming anyway.

People here in Siberia are very fond of JDM cars (with right handed steering wheels. I had two of these before :)), and there are lot of turbo Imprezas, quite a lot of RWD Toyotas with 1JZ-GTE under the hood, not to mention Hondas and other stuff, and they all think of themselves as a damn drag racers. I'll be happy to kick their asses, but now I need to be patient. ;)
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Finally bought some new (well, used ones, but in really excellent condition) studded Nokians. Now I've got some grip! Rear rims are in a very good shape except for some scratches. Front ones - well, these required some 120g to make them properly balanced. Tires are quite big at 235/60. Narrower track is good for studs to work better, high profile will help on bad roads (there are LOT of these here).

Now winter is not a problem, but I need to fix the transfer case so I could have some fun. I'll order the chain and overhaul kit in a couple of weeks.

I forgot to mention that my Ty already had finned AT oil pan and rear sway bar when I bought it. Looks like someone of previous owners loved the truck very much.
 

Quickstop [UK]

Combating adversyty.
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

From someone that also did a project outside the US, I feel your pain,

Awesome project and sensible approach. :tup:

Zdrazvuitye!
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Yesterday I replaced rear window hinges, fixed rear window wiper, changed spark plugs and wires. Then I removed a distributor cap, and... [Scary picture here] Rust is everywhere, rotor deadly stuck on the shaft. I had to brake it apart to remove.
Changed cap and rotor, put everything back together and engine didn't start. Looks like I messed with timing angle, or smth like that. I'll deal with it today.
 
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bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Engine didn't start because the distributor rotated with the engine! :) I can't figure out how to tighten it, can't see a thing down there. I guess I'll just have to remove intake manifold and then distributor, clean and fix it, and put everything back together. I wish I never touched it :)

Got the package!
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phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: '92 Typhoon in Siberia

Got the package!
Nice! I'm jealous. I'd like to do all that on my wife's Jimmy and always wanted to do that when I owned my truck. Sadly, it'll be a long while before I get that far. :lol:

Looks like you are certainly making progress!
 

bonesdmz

In Mother Russia Typhoon drives You!
Holy mother of god!

Holy mother of god!

Today I've been digging under the steering wheel (I was changing hood release cable) and found... well, something.
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Letters near the switch stand for "Auto/Man."
Inside:
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I wonder what the f@#$ this thing is?!
Looks like I'll need to check all the wiring.
 
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