V8 vs. built 4.3
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NecroWolf
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Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
if/when i blow my new 4.3 i'll never put another v6 in my truck again. the power to cost ratio is so much higher for a v8, especially a boosted v8 it's worth it to me. hopefully the bugs will be out of the ls motor swap parts by the time i'm ready
if/when i blow my new 4.3 i'll never put another v6 in my truck again. the power to cost ratio is so much higher for a v8, especially a boosted v8 it's worth it to me. hopefully the bugs will be out of the ls motor swap parts by the time i'm ready
Syclone0565
CustomMulticades.com
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
You can get 650+hp out of a N/A LS motor. Plus its all aluminum and about the same weight if not lighter than the V6.
It all comes down to the trans. I am working with that issue now.
V8 all the way.
You can get 650+hp out of a N/A LS motor. Plus its all aluminum and about the same weight if not lighter than the V6.
It all comes down to the trans. I am working with that issue now.V8 all the way.
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
$4000 for a billet crank that is hard to come by on the V6.
That's insane.
$4000 for a billet crank that is hard to come by on the V6.
That's insane.
blk00z28
Forced to by choice
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
I think its all on how you look at it.
For me, when I pop the hood I want people to go "wow, from a v6" after I run a fast time or beat a fast v8 car.
You don't have to spend a million dollars on building the v6 to make power. You have a goal, and then to make a plan and stick to it. The money ive spend on parts compared to the stock parts ive sold is actually quite close. The biggest cost thus far were my heads, and then the intake system. But even then ill only be $3500 over my sold parts profit
I think its all on how you look at it.
For me, when I pop the hood I want people to go "wow, from a v6" after I run a fast time or beat a fast v8 car.
You don't have to spend a million dollars on building the v6 to make power. You have a goal, and then to make a plan and stick to it. The money ive spend on parts compared to the stock parts ive sold is actually quite close. The biggest cost thus far were my heads, and then the intake system. But even then ill only be $3500 over my sold parts profit
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
It not all that cheap to build a 650+ hp LS either. If you live in a state with stringent emmisions, you will never get 650 NA (too agressive of a cam) and to put LS1 in a Syclone in MA would pretty much mean a motor swap every 2 years to pass.
IMO 4.3 aren't too bad in cost when stick to the factory block, crank and vortec heads. With a big turbo it should be able to go deep into the 10's/ maybe even high 9's. Much beyond that it really starts becoming expensive and a turbo LS series v8 starts looking better and better.
Syclone0565 said:You can get 650+hp out of a N/A LS motor. Plus its all aluminum and about the same weight if not lighter than the V6.
V8 all the way.
It not all that cheap to build a 650+ hp LS either. If you live in a state with stringent emmisions, you will never get 650 NA (too agressive of a cam) and to put LS1 in a Syclone in MA would pretty much mean a motor swap every 2 years to pass.
IMO 4.3 aren't too bad in cost when stick to the factory block, crank and vortec heads. With a big turbo it should be able to go deep into the 10's/ maybe even high 9's. Much beyond that it really starts becoming expensive and a turbo LS series v8 starts looking better and better.
Syclone0565
CustomMulticades.com
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
I'm with you. emissions change everything. I think what makes a syclone a syclone though is a V6, turbo, and AWD. I may have switched to a V8 but its still AWD, turboed and still in the syclone wrapper
dgoodhue said:
I'm with you. emissions change everything. I think what makes a syclone a syclone though is a V6, turbo, and AWD. I may have switched to a V8 but its still AWD, turboed and still in the syclone wrapper
MRKING
New Parts for Old Trucks
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/waller-album07/Im001070
3k from RPM
http://www.sytyperformance.com/inde...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
Who sells them for 4k ??
Does anyone have an actual list of what prices are involved with the complete turbo ls swap . Id love to see actual numbers when comparing apples to apples (built motor to built motor). I understand the want to go bigger , but the justification of its cheaper dosent seem to add up with the facts that have been shown thus far .
Say you build the motor yourself since machining and assembly is needed on both . Omit the turbo since both would have one , and a built trans would be a must on both .
Who can post the facts ?
2500 for a v6 billet crank shipped from wallerSyclone#2960 said:
http://www.sportmachines.com/gallery/waller-album07/Im001070
3k from RPM
http://www.sytyperformance.com/inde...facturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26
Who sells them for 4k ??
Does anyone have an actual list of what prices are involved with the complete turbo ls swap . Id love to see actual numbers when comparing apples to apples (built motor to built motor). I understand the want to go bigger , but the justification of its cheaper dosent seem to add up with the facts that have been shown thus far .
Say you build the motor yourself since machining and assembly is needed on both . Omit the turbo since both would have one , and a built trans would be a must on both .
Who can post the facts ?
Syclone#2960
What ever it takes!!
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
Last I checked they did not have them in stock. Dunno how much longer they are going to be making them since the 4.3 is longer made or available. Plenty of LS1 motors though.
It would be wise to do the LS1 swap if your stock motor is bad. It's kind of like using the old 4l60 sooner or later you'll wished you spent the money on the 4l80.
MRKING said:
Last I checked they did not have them in stock. Dunno how much longer they are going to be making them since the 4.3 is longer made or available. Plenty of LS1 motors though.
It would be wise to do the LS1 swap if your stock motor is bad. It's kind of like using the old 4l60 sooner or later you'll wished you spent the money on the 4l80.
Ground Rat
New member
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
I'd love to swap a turbo vortec 4200 I6 into my ty. I don't think it's been done before and you can make incredible power with those engines, plus boosted I6's sound like angels rejoicing.
I'd love to swap a turbo vortec 4200 I6 into my ty. I don't think it's been done before and you can make incredible power with those engines, plus boosted I6's sound like angels rejoicing.
midnightbluS10
Banned
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
I think that's all the argument I need.
to turbo V6
gkrcr882 said:
I think that's all the argument I need.
JSM
Active member
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
The way I look at it is I like to see everybodies different mods, how they did them, etc. If we all did everything the same it would be boring IMO.
V8, V6, 4 cylinder, bone stock, full race all interesting to see. some I would like to own, some I wouldn't be caught dead in maybe but each owner has their own budget, ideas, thoughts.
The way I look at it is I like to see everybodies different mods, how they did them, etc. If we all did everything the same it would be boring IMO.
V8, V6, 4 cylinder, bone stock, full race all interesting to see. some I would like to own, some I wouldn't be caught dead in maybe but each owner has their own budget, ideas, thoughts.
mattw
Active member
Re: V8 vs. built 4.3
I'd love to see someone cram a huge turbocharged diesel in one and run it on old cooking grease..
In all seriousness I also like to see a whole variety of things in these trucks. I particularly like creative innovations that the owner did themselves and didn't pay someone else to do.
-Matt
I'd love to see someone cram a huge turbocharged diesel in one and run it on old cooking grease..
In all seriousness I also like to see a whole variety of things in these trucks. I particularly like creative innovations that the owner did themselves and didn't pay someone else to do.
-Matt