4 in downpipe

I am thinking about building one and having it exit behind the front tire. Right now it has a 3" dp and exuast with a 76 mm dbb and I was wondering if I might see some gains from this. I know it would be loud and I have concidered the vortex cones for a bolt in thing to drive it to the track.Then unbolt it and go. What do you guys think. I know the turbo buick guy have seen some gains going to 3.5-4 inch stuff.
 

Foot Performance

Donating Member
Re: 4 in downpipe

I dont think it is going to do you much good if you turbo is 3" there is no real restriction.

example take your 1" water spout and put a 2" hose no real advantage becuase the outlet is the restriction same as the turbo

my :2cents:
 
Re: 4 in downpipe

Lot of TurboMustangs gain significant power with 76s by going to larger dp. Go over to TurboMustang.com and do a search. Here's one post I saved and mailed to a buddy with a 76 bowtiev6...

T-76GTS Backpressure test data
« on: June 03, 2006, 10:57:25 PM »

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I've pretty much completed my backpressure testing on the T-76 GTS. Here's what I got:

Recent customer build using a 3.5" downpipe and 377 cid:
10 psi boost - 18 psi backpressure
18 psi boost - 26 psi backpressure


My personal car using a 3" downpipe and 363 cid:

With single 3.5" cat-back and a 3.5" Hooker Aerochamber:
11 psi boost - 35 psi backpressure
21 psi boost - 48 psi backpressure

With no cat-back, 3" downpipe only:
19 psi boost - 34 psi backpressure

The next step is to purchase a Magnaflow 3.5" straight-through muffler to replace the Aerochamber and hopefully keep the backpressure down, but keep it quiet.

The interesting part is that I used the exact same boost controller setting when I removed the exhaust and saw a boost increase from 11 to 19 psi. It seems as though the boost controller and wastegate work more off of backpressure than boost since both had the same ~35 psi backpressure.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: 4 in downpipe

as you said many many many turbo buick guys gain 30-50rwhp going from a 3" to 3.5" no real gains happened after the 3.5 until mad power was being made 800++
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
Re: 4 in downpipe

I don't think we'll really know for sure until someone tries it. If you do , be sure to post before/after comparisons! The 3" PTE is a tight fit already, I'd hate to have to fit the 4"! :)
 

Aeroking

e.i.
Re: 4 in downpipe

if you bing it out behind the front tire, you can run the exhaust along the outside of the frame under the cab, and put a cut-out behind the tire.
 

Grimgrak

New member
Re: 4 in downpipe

Nolan has a 74 for me and i'm running the atr dp with a cut out should be intresting if i can take some backpressure measurements.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: 4 in downpipe

lol i have seen 2 mufflex has done it fits but is very tight, most people just go 4" to 4" oval to make it a easier fit.

Tooky said:
I don't think we'll really know for sure until someone tries it. If you do , be sure to post before/after comparisons! The 3" PTE is a tight fit already, I'd hate to have to fit the 4"! :)
 

It's just a six

Super Member
Re: 4 in downpipe

I say go for it.
Can't hurt performance.
Some people here used to think a 3" DP does not do any good on a stock engine,now look.
 

420

Broke Ass Racing
Re: 4 in downpipe

You will see gains with that size turbo, assuming you are putting some good boost to it. :)
 

BigAl...

Member
Re: 4 in downpipe

Foot Performance said:
I dont think it is going to do you much good if you turbo is 3" there is no real restriction.

example take your 1" water spout and put a 2" hose no real advantage becuase the outlet is the restriction same as the turbo

my :2cents:


I'm not too sure this example applies, keep in mind (although it does make sense) this is a different scenario, the gases exiting the turbo are extremely hot which means they are expanding so in actuality if you were to put a nice transition to the larger 4" pipe you can attempt to simulate a scavenge affect.

BigAl...
 

Foot Performance

Donating Member
Re: 4 in downpipe

BigAl... said:
I'm not too sure this example applies, keep in mind (although it does make sense) this is a different scenario, the gases exiting the turbo are extremely hot which means they are expanding so in actuality if you were to put a nice transition to the larger 4" pipe you can attempt to simulate a scavenge affect.

BigAl...

That is acually a pritty good point and i dint think about the expanding gas :tup:
 
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