General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
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James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
Key word is a "little". If you are very very (and I mean big time very) good at tuning and have not only the patience to do so but also the will power to not become a "juice monkey", then yes and it has been done with good results by several (do a search). Be aware that our trucks will not tolerate any detonation and can be broken very easy in stock form from just a bad tune or fuel problem (but you prolly know this).
Now that being said, the average hotrodder is usualy of the more is better and if it took a 20-25 shot ok, then a 50 should be ok right? WRONG! Problem with nitrous is it's so easy that the (just a little more) monster creeps out in most of us and before you know it, you have boat anchor where your engine used to be N.O.S. enhances the effects of boost (or vice versa) And I myself am a certified "squeeze junkie". I have N.O.S. on 5 cars, 2 trucks 2 Harley's and a V-MAX, oh I forgot to mention I am a N.O.S. dealer / installer and at any one time have 8-10 fill station cylinders in the shop
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For most I would say no, don't do it if you fit the "average" description above. If however you are in the tuner guru catagory with all the REQUIRED tools (data logging, WBO2, EGT, pressure and temp guages) then just go real real slow. I have run N.O.S. on blower engines for years and will on the Ty at some point also.
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Key word is a "little". If you are very very (and I mean big time very) good at tuning and have not only the patience to do so but also the will power to not become a "juice monkey", then yes and it has been done with good results by several (do a search). Be aware that our trucks will not tolerate any detonation and can be broken very easy in stock form from just a bad tune or fuel problem (but you prolly know this).
Now that being said, the average hotrodder is usualy of the more is better and if it took a 20-25 shot ok, then a 50 should be ok right? WRONG! Problem with nitrous is it's so easy that the (just a little more) monster creeps out in most of us and before you know it, you have boat anchor where your engine used to be N.O.S. enhances the effects of boost (or vice versa) And I myself am a certified "squeeze junkie". I have N.O.S. on 5 cars, 2 trucks 2 Harley's and a V-MAX, oh I forgot to mention I am a N.O.S. dealer / installer and at any one time have 8-10 fill station cylinders in the shop
.For most I would say no, don't do it if you fit the "average" description above. If however you are in the tuner guru catagory with all the REQUIRED tools (data logging, WBO2, EGT, pressure and temp guages) then just go real real slow. I have run N.O.S. on blower engines for years and will on the Ty at some point also.
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Flyin Ryan
hated cuz he drives fords
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
I would say don't do it.. unless you have deep pockets. syty motors have a short life span as it is.. adding juice to the mix which would normally shorten the life span of most motors will without a doubt in my eyes do the same on a syty motor with faster results
I would say don't do it.. unless you have deep pockets. syty motors have a short life span as it is.. adding juice to the mix which would normally shorten the life span of most motors will without a doubt in my eyes do the same on a syty motor with faster results
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
To use a moderate amount of nitrous in a SyTy motor with sucess, you better have a good understanding of tuning the ECM, that includes a cusom tune and using WB02. You also can't use the stock turbo wastegate, because it will overboost. As mention above and many other times on this forum the stock internal are weak and they don't not tolerate detonation, with N2O this is even more so.
To use a moderate amount of nitrous in a SyTy motor with sucess, you better have a good understanding of tuning the ECM, that includes a cusom tune and using WB02. You also can't use the stock turbo wastegate, because it will overboost. As mention above and many other times on this forum the stock internal are weak and they don't not tolerate detonation, with N2O this is even more so.
turbodig
Active member
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
Here's the dynamics of it...
Hit the throttle... boost comes up as normal...spray hits..boost skyrockets... wastegate can't keep up...27-30 psi + juice = quick death of ring lands. And that's assuming you have it fueled right.
In the 15 years I've been around these things I've never heard/seen one successful NOS story on a stockish motor.
*Edit*: I'll clarify my definition of successful as running more than 5 passes.
Which is not to say that you can't build a motor to take NOS and boost, but you better have your ducks in a row as far as engine/boost management to do it.
Here's the dynamics of it...
Hit the throttle... boost comes up as normal...spray hits..boost skyrockets... wastegate can't keep up...27-30 psi + juice = quick death of ring lands. And that's assuming you have it fueled right.
In the 15 years I've been around these things I've never heard/seen one successful NOS story on a stockish motor.
*Edit*: I'll clarify my definition of successful as running more than 5 passes.
Which is not to say that you can't build a motor to take NOS and boost, but you better have your ducks in a row as far as engine/boost management to do it.
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warmpancakes
New member
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
Ive done it with good sucess, but it was on a dyno under extremely controlled condiditons the motor was built and TUNED for the spray everything was fine until what was mentioned above happened, I did blow the rings off the pistons and that was after 20 ish pulls on the dynop so I knew i would have to tear the motor down, a simple dry shot of 50 HP should be fine, bnut I was uning it for a cooler as opposed to a power adder so My jet was right after the turbo , before the a2a cooler
Ive done it with good sucess, but it was on a dyno under extremely controlled condiditons the motor was built and TUNED for the spray everything was fine until what was mentioned above happened, I did blow the rings off the pistons and that was after 20 ish pulls on the dynop so I knew i would have to tear the motor down, a simple dry shot of 50 HP should be fine, bnut I was uning it for a cooler as opposed to a power adder so My jet was right after the turbo , before the a2a cooler
James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
Re: General consensus on spraying a SyTy?
Phil Long has done it also, maybe he will drop in and comment?
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James
Phil Long has done it also, maybe he will drop in and comment?
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James
