what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

sy445

New member
I have a built motor with 4bolt mains, cryo crank, vortecs, 50# injectors, atr headers and 3" dwnpipe and a 415 cam ready to install. Will the pt61 get me over 500hp on pump gas? of course with a good tune. I have a bult trans w a 2800 lock up convertor. . I was looking at the gt35r but its a little expensive and i wonder if its overkill? This motor only has a cryoed stock crank. Any help would be greatly appreciated since im ready to order a turbo, thanks
 

sy445

New member
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

15 or 16 lbs with 93 octane. Dont want to push it in case of knock. In the future i plan on running meth injection for more boost.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

sy445 said:
15 or 16 lbs with 93 octane. Dont want to push it in case of knock. In the future i plan on running meth injection for more boost.

Your going to get nowhere near 500hp with a PT61 or GT35R at 15 or 16psi.
 

sy445

New member
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

I was talking flywheel horsepower. I know 500 is not going to happen @ the wheels. So about how much power is attainable from a pt61, pte63 or gt35r with 16lbs of boost? or what other good choices are there?
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

sy445 said:
So about how much power is attainable from a pt61, pte63 or gt35r with 16lbs of boost? or what other good choices are there?
there are a lot of variables still...but my GUESS would be
PTE63 @ 16psi: 385hp
PT61 @ 16psi: 400hp
GT35R @ 16psi: 415hp
if nothing else i'd stand by that order/closeness in power levels each w/ an agressive tune at 16psi and stock other crap. (going w/ the 4"/2.5" covers on the 61/35) Heads/Cam/Timing/Injectors/IC...theres too much to just assume power levels - aside from the fact that no 2 trucks react to the same mods in the same way. People have gained power from .05 difference in plug gaps...so you aren't going to get a solid/proven answer for YOUR truck.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

i made 500 at the wheels with a 74gtq i got from erue at turbotime pump gas only
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

MikeRenz said:
there are a lot of variables still...but my GUESS would be
PTE63 @ 16psi: 385hp
PT61 @ 16psi: 400hp
GT35R @ 16psi: 415hp
if nothing else i'd stand by that order/closeness in power levels each w/ an agressive tune at 16psi and stock other crap. (going w/ the 4"/2.5" covers on the 61/35) Heads/Cam/Timing/Injectors/IC...theres too much to just assume power levels - aside from the fact that no 2 trucks react to the same mods in the same way. People have gained power from .05 difference in plug gaps...so you aren't going to get a solid/proven answer for YOUR truck.

I am with Mike. I think all three of those Turbo potentially could hit 500+ hp with 22-25 psi of boost. I am hoping the PT61 will because that is my goal I have for HP, though ultimately I really care more about the ET/MPH at the track.
 

sy445

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Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

What rpm does that turbo spool at? is a 2800 stall enough for that?
 

clone 94

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Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

a buddy of mine put down 400+ hp on one of waller modified turbos at 22 psi. he swapped to a pt6131e and is aiming for 500+ at 22-23 psi. should be on the dyno right now

hes got vortecs and a 422 cam

i've got a 6152 on my truck. the GN guys have pushed them to high 10's. i know a syty would need more turbo for that but my truck is a little different
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

sy445 said:
What rpm does that turbo spool at? is a 2800 stall enough for that?

mine has a tci 9-11 3000 stall and had instant boost it hit full boost in the 4000k rpm range
 

sy445

New member
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

How does that 74gtq drive on the street? I just got off the phone with precision turbo, They told me they make the pt61 in a ball bearing version. Does anyone have experience with this turbo? I also am unsure of what flanges i have to order, Do sy/ty's have a t4 or a t3 exhaust flange?? sorry for all the ?'s ive tried searching before posting.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

74 was great on the street. from a light with no brake boosting i still went sideways 1 lane over it makes so much power down low. all 4 spinning like craqzy with drag tires on all 4 and caltracs. very fun turbo
 

sy445

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Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

Raist103 said:
74 was great on the street. from a light with no brake boosting i still went sideways 1 lane over it makes so much power down low. all 4 spinning like craqzy with drag tires on all 4 and caltracs. very fun turbo

So i guess its safe to say that this turbo isnt to big for a daily driver? How much boost can u build off the foot brake? Are you making this power with a stock crank?
 

cloneman315

Active member
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

i made just a bout 500 with same cam with a gtq67 but them 50s might be a lil small
 

autoaddictions

Active member
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

Im running a GTQ 72 this turbo is great!! full boost at 3800 rpm very streetable. With all the supporting mods this turbo will make an easy 500 @ the crank with room to grow Mike at rpm sells them, works well with his down pipe and gate. For the strret a 2800 stall will work fine for this turbo.
 

Raist103

Engine Killer, iPhone Killer, Lawnmower Killer
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

i had a stock crank in it when it ran, dont know why but i melted 2 pistons twice now so now it is all apart again. i could build as much as needed on the street from the foot brake. never had a chance to get to the track with it.
 

autoaddictions

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Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

sy445 said:
So i guess its safe to say that this turbo isnt to big for a daily driver? How much boost can u build off the foot brake? Are you making this power with a stock crank?
We where talking about this at the track tuesday! Dons said is crank was an off the shelf recon. Nothing special. My crank is stock cryoed!! As long as the knock is under control the crank should hold up fine to the 700 range!
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: what turbo for an honest 500 hp on pump gas?

autoaddictions,
i'm guessing you're running 26psi or so? Remember he only wants to run 16lbs.
 
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