Please explain to me about the turbo

hatrik8

Donating Member
So I'm talking with this friend at work telling how he should boost launch his 05 wrx w/ an auto. He can do that right? It's the same principle as our truck, no? Then I was trying to explain to this other guy at work why the turbo won't spool in neutral, but couldn't convince him.

Why doesn't the turbo spool in neutral?
 

myclone

Donating Member
Re: Please explain to me about the turbo

hatrik8 said:
So I'm talking with this friend at work telling how he should boost launch his 05 wrx w/ an auto. He can do that right? It's the same principle as our truck, no? Then I was trying to explain to this other guy at work why the turbo won't spool in neutral, but couldn't convince him.

Why doesn't the turbo spool in neutral?

Its not just the exhaust gas flow that spools a turbo its hot/expanding exhaust gasses that spool it up. In neutral theres no load on the engine and no matter how hard you rev it the ECM keeps the mixture fairly lean. In gear the ECM adds fuel since it sees the higherTPS vs the lower RPM so the EGTs go up.

You can spool a turbo in neutral if you retard the timing, richen the mixture up, or use a rev limiter (2 step or "stutter box"). All this does is get more heat into the turbine side by allowing the burning of the mixture in the exh upstream of the turbo but past the exh valve. A small shot of N20 will do the same thing as all the above.

BTW, isnt your friends car the same one that I heard will flag an "abuse" code after so many boosted launches? Seems I remember seeing/reading somewhere that after ~11 boosted launches the ECM kicks on the SES light and when the dealer pulls the codes they get the "abuse code" and the dealer promptly voids the warranty. I might be completely wrong but then again it might be worth checking on.
 

20psiGMC

Member
Re: Please explain to me about the turbo

What Dave said
(he beat me to the reply button :p)

Anyway, since I typed it:

What spools the turbo is heat/pressure differential across a stage ( i.e.; one side of the turbine wheel to the other). When the engine is not under load, you’re not making anywhere near the heat/pressure to do the job. When you run the converter up against the brakes, you’re placing the engine under load.

As a side note, this is why a free-flowing downpipe/exhaust helps spool. When going from a restrictive to free-flowing exhaust, you’ve increased the pressure differential across the turbine wheel…

HTH.
 

syclone1100

RUNNIN AND SELLIN
Re: Please explain to me about the turbo

myclone I know alot of subie owners and I can say with confidence that there is no such code.... but if you really want to be sure check out nasioc.com they will have a definate anwser
 
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